I actually agree with you on a number of points. Number one being, if you have something to say to somebody, say it to them, not to the world. Too much drama otherwise. And its almost begging it.
As for the religion thing. I think that organized religion is debilitating. I believe everyone should have their own beliefs and not rely on other people believing what they do. And poking holes in somebody's religion? Questioning your beliefs is good. Because it does one of two things. Forces you to change your beliefs, or validates them. Both of which are good things in my mind.
I agree with you that religion has values but I also agree that religion has been used and is being used by many people to manipulate others. That is not to say that there are not people that truly believe and that it is not a valid religion. It is just that power corrupts all but the purest. And in that religion we have sinners leading sinners so corruption of the system is easy to see coming.
I hate it when people put their words in my mouth and tell me how I am feeling about anything. I don't see how saying that one man has the right to say religion is a hoax is saying anything about his religion. You are right if they truly believe then nothing anyone can say will touch their faith. Maybe it bothered him because he is not as strong in his faith as he thinks he is. It's happened before. I hope that you get to work it out though.
A quote I think you might like. Hope it makes you smile. "I know you believe you understand what you think I said. But, I am not sure you realize that what you heard is NOT what I meant."
You are forgiven, and I hope that I never seem unapproachable on these matters. I am a big believer in communication...and I think you are too. I don't so much mind that this went public, it just really surprised me. I do enjoy being able to talk about things in person and dealing with them in private...but I am also a sucker for a good debate. I think debate is in my DNA *grins*
So, in the spirit of good debate... "Did this man have the right to picket or protest? Did this man go through the courts, get the rights to pull out a picket sign and protest? I don’t think he did, but hey... I don’t fully know. Did this man know that people have the right to believe in whatever we choose? That his little sign takes away from that and ruins our belief and to a lesser degree our faith in ourselves? We go to church thinking "Yup, God is real. He is good. Nothing can change our minds." When people try to force you to think otherwise, by pulling out signs, protesting, etc, it ruins that belief and forces us to rethink.Our forefathers earned the
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*LOL I guess LJ felt I had too much to say...here is the rest...*
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"When people try to force you to think otherwise, by pulling out signs, protesting, etc, it ruins that belief and forces us to rethink."
If it ruins your belief...then maybe you need to rethink that belief...as stated above. I don't respect blind faith, but I do respect well thought out, maybe even defended faith. He was not trying to force anyone to think anything. He was simply a man, with an idea and a sign.
I honestly respect that he had the balls to hold a sign like that in front of a church on Easter. I'm sure the Catholics gave him a lesson or two in humility...and honestly? I don't think that is what Jesus would do.
That seems so out of the blue! He seemed as if he just didn't want to participate in the conversation from the way you described how he acted. And he seems to think he gave you some clue as to how he felt; it's not fair of him to assume you should censor how you feel just because he is present. You're right about him needing to come to you if your actions or words have upset him. ::hug:: If you want to rant, my AIM name is my userinfo. :-)
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As for the religion thing. I think that organized religion is debilitating. I believe everyone should have their own beliefs and not rely on other people believing what they do. And poking holes in somebody's religion? Questioning your beliefs is good. Because it does one of two things. Forces you to change your beliefs, or validates them. Both of which are good things in my mind.
That is all. :-)
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I hate it when people put their words in my mouth and tell me how I am feeling about anything. I don't see how saying that one man has the right to say religion is a hoax is saying anything about his religion. You are right if they truly believe then nothing anyone can say will touch their faith. Maybe it bothered him because he is not as strong in his faith as he thinks he is. It's happened before. I hope that you get to work it out though.
A quote I think you might like. Hope it makes you smile. "I know you believe you understand what you think I said. But, I am not sure you realize that what you heard is NOT what I meant."
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So, in the spirit of good debate...
"Did this man have the right to picket or protest? Did this man go through the courts, get the rights to pull out a picket sign and protest? I don’t think he did, but hey... I don’t fully know. Did this man know that people have the right to believe in whatever we choose? That
his little sign takes away from that and ruins our belief and to a lesser
degree our faith in ourselves? We go to church thinking "Yup, God is
real. He is good. Nothing can change our minds." When people try to force
you to think otherwise, by pulling out signs, protesting, etc, it ruins
that belief and forces us to rethink.Our forefathers earned the ( ... )
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Lastly,
"When people try to force
you to think otherwise, by pulling out signs, protesting, etc, it ruins
that belief and forces us to rethink."
If it ruins your belief...then maybe you need to rethink that belief...as stated above. I don't respect blind faith, but I do respect well thought out, maybe even defended faith. He was not trying to force anyone to think anything. He was simply a man, with an idea and a sign.
I honestly respect that he had the balls to hold a sign like that in front of a church on Easter. I'm sure the Catholics gave him a lesson or two in humility...and honestly? I don't think that is what Jesus would do.
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