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Oct 01, 2005 23:29

I had a simple thought just now. I notice that a lot of people who don't take part in religion find constant humor in mocking it. I can't remember the last time a bunch of Baptists got together and made fun of agnostics or atheists. I'm not saying it doesn't happen and in truth, Christians would have a much harder time of finding something to ( Read more... )

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I don't respect nonsense. sami_jane October 2 2005, 06:04:31 UTC

Christians don't mock me. They just shove lousy propaganda down my throat and remind me constantly that I'm headed on a path to hell.

How much atheist propaganda do you see posted in practice rooms, billboards, and television? How many atheists are knocking on doors spreading their good word of reason?

Re: I don't respect nonsense. wolfjaw October 2 2005, 08:07:26 UTC

You are familiar with Michael Moore? Although I agree with him on a lot of issues, he is a big activist that does the same thing on the other side of the fence and he isn't the only one. To answer your question: "A lot more than you realize."

Re: I don't respect nonsense. sami_jane October 2 2005, 08:22:25 UTC

He is one.
How many more are there?

Re: I don't respect nonsense. wolfjaw October 3 2005, 07:14:58 UTC

Every person that mocks religion is doing it. Just as an over-zealous preacher would stand on the side of the road shouting, people who mock it in front of their peers do the same. Did you ever stop and think about how I felt when you mock my beliefs. Take your avatar for example. Although there is some real truth to it, why do you find it necessary to advocate anti-religion?

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twinbee October 2 2005, 07:04:08 UTC

Thought I think a world full of athiests would be a lot better off than the world we live in, I know that religion is not a rational decision--its an emotional one. There really is no use in trying to change most fundamentalists minds, but on the rare occasion that it works, its worth it.

I don't think there is anything wrong in declaring oneself a Christian--everyone should have such a freedom. The problems I run into with religion are when
(1) religious figures use their political power to force their will on others (see for example: India and Pakistan, the ban on the mention of evolution in Tennessee schools until 1968, the recent 10 commandments in court houses issue, the inquisition, the crusades, fatwas)
(2) when a religion tells its members that they are helpless and must surrender themselves to authority, esp "authority on earth"
(3) when religion leads people down blind paths to resolve some personal issues in order to gain (see: faith healers)

yishnir October 2 2005, 07:50:39 UTC

I think it's generally better to try to find the good in things rather than to focus on the bad.

icetray October 17 2005, 06:18:49 UTC

By and large, I think debate on religion is futile. We're all arguing the same thing anyway. Disproving the existence of any supernatural power, Christian God or otherwise, is more difficult than supporting its existence. That having been said, neither side of the field has made much progress either way. Me, not believing in a God, per se, see religion as more of a way for people to cope with reality. I note that the more religious people become, the happier they appear to be. I personally see this as a system self-perpetuating an increasing gradient of brainwashing and surrender of personal accountability. From their point of view, I no doubt appear to be rejecting the real Truth and am senselessly living a life of sorrow and worry when I could easily be so much happier ( ... )