never has a friend made me feel so horrible...

May 28, 2005 16:17

this is long, but it pretty much helps you see what happened to a friendship ( Read more... )

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incitor May 29 2005, 22:18:18 UTC
Hrm. I think I've had this conversation, or an approximation of it half a hundred times in my life. Cultural forces work toward an objective form of beauty - something that, seemingly by its nature, must be subjective ( ... )

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armygirly23 June 3 2005, 05:48:15 UTC
How can you sit there and be offended by him (or some men) not being attracted to overweight chicks. I looked you up on myspace after reading this- and there you are talking shit about ugly punk rock chicks. Well, some people feel the same about fat chicks. Such is life. I'm not a punk rock girl, so I really don't care that you find them ugly. But back to the whole being insulted thing: Hmmm- it's not like he said that it was the color of your eyes or some other feature you can't change that wasn't attractive to some men. He was talking about weight. And let's face it- you CAN change your weight. Just get off your ass and workout. Or cut down on the beer and crappy food. Don't sit and act the martyr over something like that. What irritates me MOST of all, is that you sit there and call yourself skinhead. That's a direct insult to me as a skinhead. Can someone PUH-LEASE tell me why 90% of all skinhead girls are fucking fat?? Jesus christ! Part of being a skinhead is having some goddamn pride in yourself- and that DOES include ( ... )

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workinclaslass June 3 2005, 14:05:04 UTC
first of all, the whole POINT of the comversation was that people can't overlook physical aspects of people enough to like them. who cares if someone that's fat can "lose the weight" yet ugly people can't change their lot in life? not that that's always the case...people who are morbidly obese or something to that effect aren't just "lazy and refuse to get off their asses"...it's a problem that needs a little more help then that...the whole arguement, if you read it in it's entirety, was that most men can't look past the outside to really enjoy the person on the inside...look at what he said, "i really like this girl, but i won't date her because she's overweight"...that's fucking bullshit...my comment on ugly punk rock girls was an observation, much like your point that most skinhead girls are overweight...big fucking deal..i never said don't date punk chicks because they are ugly...and if making an observation makes you insulted, then maybe you need to reevaluate...being a skinhead, you shouldn't care what my fucking opinions are

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armygirly23 June 3 2005, 14:10:38 UTC
I don't care at all what your opinions are. I just think you're a whiner. Why should someone have to look past the physical? It's the 1st thing that attracts you when you meet someone.I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't like tattoos to look past it and date me. Nor should I be expected yo see the "great personality" that some fat guy has, and give one a chance. Everyone has preferences and they aren't wrong for that.

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workinclaslass June 3 2005, 14:15:44 UTC
so being shallow is better then being a whiner? no one is asking you to do anything that you don't want to...but it is unfortunate that there's people out there refuse to look past the outside, ESPECAIILY if they do like that person...and i hate to break it to you sweetheart, what the fuck do you think a personal journal is for, if not for whining?

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