meta recs + the privilege to dismiss

Sep 09, 2007 18:24

chopchica:

So yes, I get more than enough of this in my daily life, and my question is, in fandom - where everybody is willing to discuss (the very valid issues of) Martha the maid, female characters being hated and ignored because they’re female and not male, het sex being thought of as gross and needing specific warnings, miscegenation, whether 'playing ( Read more... )

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ubiquirk September 10 2007, 02:45:02 UTC
The inability of people to see hegemonic forces in place is the biggest part of the power hegemony wields - they just think things 'are the way they are.' White privilege, male privilege, heteronormativity - it's all so easy to perpetuate and buy into because we're bombarded with it constantly. Thank you for being a voice that speaks back.

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xanphibian September 10 2007, 02:52:17 UTC
I had to look up 'hegemonic'. *facepalm*

Thank you!

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glossing September 10 2007, 03:03:30 UTC
It's a great word! :D

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ubiquirk September 10 2007, 03:04:53 UTC
Heh. And I just realized that I was using it in terms of cultural hegemony, which most dictionaries won't have, so facepalm for me too.

The idea that the dominant cultural group subtlety controls the thoughts of all via indoctrination, which can take the form of mass media and popular culture. [E.g., showing that successful people are predominantly white men on TV brainwashes everyone into thinking that's the way it's supposed to be and makes them less likely to speak out.]

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kita0610 September 10 2007, 04:35:18 UTC
Thank you for this.

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xanphibian September 10 2007, 05:15:52 UTC
:) I don't know if I've told you how much I've enjoyed your Jewish posts, other than to say thank you, but I've Really. Really. enjoyed them. So thanks right back.

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minim_calibre September 10 2007, 04:46:59 UTC
This is why I adore you, hon.

And, yeah. Just, yeah.

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xanphibian September 10 2007, 05:20:02 UTC
:) Thank you, Min.

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xanphibian September 10 2007, 09:52:21 UTC
Heh, that reminds me of my own mama board stories. I was politely asked to leave a board for moms of developmentally delayed children (after being there for a while and getting to know people) because my child wasn't 'getting better' and was developmentally disabled. The issues were exactly the same, nothing had changed, but still I was pushed out because, I dunno, they were afraid I'd transmit retardation through the internet to their children or something. It was really kind of batshit, and it was the first time I encountered discrimination because of my daughter. Pretty mild compared to the stuff we go through now that she's older, but at the time it was a shock.

And yeah, you're right about the 'acceptable form of bigotry'. I've seen some similar comments in these posts. I just don't get it, honestly. I have such huge respect for Jewish culture and history, and the way they've kept it over the centuries -- it's so strong, amazing, and rich, and I'm completely in awe at times when I think about how very difficult it must have been ( ... )

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ladycat777 September 10 2007, 17:21:58 UTC
You are awesome, love.

And the commentor above who says it's 'acceptable'? It is. Because it unites all Christians, regardless of skin color or sexual persuasion. And yes, of course, there are plenty of non-Christians around too, but when you look at sheer numbers... there aren't a lot of Jews. It used to be 6% of the US population, but I think that's dropped. There are a lot more Christians who have been raised by birth to think that Jews are inhuman at very best, and since they've never met one, never heard of one being kept out of a job, or poor and living on the streets, then it's okay to make fun of them. They're rich aren't they?

My mother grew up in a place where people told her to her face that Hitler was right and the US Government was a fool for trying to stop him. It wasn't that long ago, and it's still sometimes scary as hell to visit where my Grandparents live. The neighborhood has changed a lot, but not totally.

But you are awesome.

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xanphibian September 11 2007, 04:55:51 UTC
You are awesome and I love you.

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