Here are erries' comments (I'm posting them while she's away):
- I love that when the crazy psychic dude explains his children-turned-to-starlight theory, even Mulder, who will believe ANYTHING, is like wtf??- Mulder writing that "April base" note without knowing it was creepy
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how she thinks she had a brother with brown hair who used to tease her. SOB. OMG this part!!!! This part is the kicker to that whole diary entry...oh man....It's so real and so horribly sad....
Speaking of Jeffrey, wouldn't this have been a good time for someone to be like, "Hey, remember that Spender guy who used to work here? What happened to him?"
Isn't he supposedly dead at this point? As for why he never brought up the chick he used to play with at the air base... I'm thinking he probably never actually read many of the X-files. But I will play a bit closer attention to him the next time I watch.
But so, uh. What happened to Samantha? Is it this story, that she was on a military base and they did tests on her and then she escaped and was taken to a hospital and then the walk-ins took her to be part of the starlight? Or is it the story from Two Fathers/One Son and the earlier myth arc, that she was abducted by aliens as part of Bill Mulder's colonization deal with the Syndicate and they made clones of her to work in corn fields and presumably experimented on her to try to create a hybrid? Those are two totally different stories, mainly because up until now we've been led to believe that she was taken by the aliens,
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Oh, this one always makes me cry. I love the monologue at the beginning, the music, the actual closure, and of course the end with Samantha (though of course we all wish Vanessa Morley had been available at the time).
I always wondered about the Vanessa Morely thing. Was she just not available or too old for the role by that stage? I have no idea how old she is so forgive the ignorance. lol.
I dont think the actress that played Samantha in this ep is a horrible match though. She still looks Samantha-ish to me.
I think Frank actually answered our very own frey_at_last this very question a while ago on his blog! I don't remember his exact response anymore, but I think it was as lame as "we couldn't/wouldn't fly her down from Vancouver," or something like that. Which is a bummer, but oh well. I have no clue how old she is now, but she's looking quite grown up in IWTB, isn't she?
Oh, I don't think so either, it's just a bit jarring. Then again, the weird thing about the varied casting in terms of "past Mulder family members" was that, even when they'd change up actors/actresses, individually they all work really well. (Which is actually why this young!Mulder is my favorite, even though he's only in Demons.)
Vanessa Morley was actually 14 when this episode was filmed, which is the exact age Samantha supposedly was when she was taken by the walk-ins. It would've been perfect!
Oh man...I think this episode is wonderful beyond the telling of it. So beautiful and sad and just...wow. It was one of the episodes I watched randomly on tv before I actually got addicted and watched them all in order, so perhaps my already being spoiled about Samantha helps with accepting her "starlight-ness"? (Though...I'm still not sure I actually really understand the whole concept of it...>Mulder's starlight speech to Scully breaks my heart into teeny tiny flecks of heart pieces, and it's one of the things that first sold me on the show. And his voice, when he says "I'm free"...you can really feel the weight being lifted off his shoulders. (Ohh, I am tearing up as I type this *is a sniffly dork
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I feel like their earthly bodies have passed away, but their souls were allowed to live on? In the stars? Or something?
According to Harold Piller's explanation, the Walk-ins transformed the bodies of the children into pure energy so they could be taken to a safe place (starlight). That's what I understood, anyway.
I like this episode. I still think the whole "starlight" thing is a bit WTF, but I love that Samantha has been dead for years and years before we join Mulder on his quest. I love that her death is both mundane and other worldly while still holding true to the mythology of the show. I was disappointed with this episode the first time I saw it, but I probably would have been disappointed with almost anything that didn't include Samantha actually being returned to him in some credible way, and I ultimately like that that didn't happen.
Ahhh... the Mulder and Scully moments in this episode are so very killer. And they totally slept together after the diary scene, whether or not they had sex. I'd say that would have been a lovely time for William to have been conceived if I didn't feel Scully's pregnancy was already terribly, terribly long.
(Note: Just a head's up that to the best of my knowledge there are no episode guides for Seasons 8 and 9. So this will be the last season for my back story posts, unless someone knows where I can find ep guides for the final two seasons.)
I took so many notes for this ep, most of which involved writing down word-for-word Mulder's teaser monologue and a section of Samantha's diary. First, though...
Thoughts: - Once again, this ep STRONGLY reminds me of IWTB, in various ways. Not in a bad way, the two just have many common aspects. - How can Scully say, "I'm going back to Washington. There's nothing more to be done here." When they haven't even found the body of this missing girl? - In Mulder's hypnosis tape from 1989, DD's hair looks amazingly similar to his hair in 2008. - Mulder shutting down Scully's CSM theory was a bit abrupt, yes. But later on it just broke my heart when she told him what she had learned in the motel room and he just looked at her and said, "You went to him?" He sounds so *betrayed*. What's odd is that she didn
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"Paul Rabwin offers, 'It's been seven years. I don't think any of us are going to miss Samantha Mulder. That device and motivation were very strong in the early years of the show. But as the years have gone by, the speculation kind of melted away
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- I love that when the crazy psychic dude explains his children-turned-to-starlight theory, even Mulder, who will believe ANYTHING, is like wtf??- Mulder writing that "April base" note without knowing it was creepy ( ... )
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OMG this part!!!! This part is the kicker to that whole diary entry...oh man....It's so real and so horribly sad....
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Isn't he supposedly dead at this point? As for why he never brought up the chick he used to play with at the air base... I'm thinking he probably never actually read many of the X-files. But I will play a bit closer attention to him the next time I watch.
But so, uh. What happened to Samantha? Is it this story, that she was on a military base and they did tests on her and then she escaped and was taken to a hospital and then the walk-ins took her to be part of the starlight? Or is it the story from Two Fathers/One Son and the earlier myth arc, that she was abducted by aliens as part of Bill Mulder's colonization deal with the Syndicate and they made clones of her to work in corn fields and presumably experimented on her to try to create a hybrid? Those are two totally different stories, mainly because up until now we've been led to believe that she was taken by the aliens, ( ... )
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I agree. What about the place where it happened, though? I *think* I know what you're talking about, but wanted your POV on it.
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I dont think the actress that played Samantha in this ep is a horrible match though. She still looks Samantha-ish to me.
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Oh, I don't think so either, it's just a bit jarring. Then again, the weird thing about the varied casting in terms of "past Mulder family members" was that, even when they'd change up actors/actresses, individually they all work really well. (Which is actually why this young!Mulder is my favorite, even though he's only in Demons.)
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According to Harold Piller's explanation, the Walk-ins transformed the bodies of the children into pure energy so they could be taken to a safe place (starlight). That's what I understood, anyway.
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Ahhh... the Mulder and Scully moments in this episode are so very killer. And they totally slept together after the diary scene, whether or not they had sex. I'd say that would have been a lovely time for William to have been conceived if I didn't feel Scully's pregnancy was already terribly, terribly long.
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I took so many notes for this ep, most of which involved writing down word-for-word Mulder's teaser monologue and a section of Samantha's diary. First, though...
Thoughts:
- Once again, this ep STRONGLY reminds me of IWTB, in various ways. Not in a bad way, the two just have many common aspects.
- How can Scully say, "I'm going back to Washington. There's nothing more to be done here." When they haven't even found the body of this missing girl?
- In Mulder's hypnosis tape from 1989, DD's hair looks amazingly similar to his hair in 2008.
- Mulder shutting down Scully's CSM theory was a bit abrupt, yes. But later on it just broke my heart when she told him what she had learned in the motel room and he just looked at her and said, "You went to him?" He sounds so *betrayed*. What's odd is that she didn ( ... )
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"Paul Rabwin offers, 'It's been seven years. I don't think any of us are going to miss Samantha Mulder. That device and motivation were very strong in the early years of the show. But as the years have gone by, the speculation kind of melted away ( ... )
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