So these bad guys were doing experiments with human ova in a secret lab on a ship at sea. Who do they work for? Were they working with alien DNA, or were they just trying to develop super soldiers, or is that the same thing
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The idea of the super solider story is that it was completely new and different from the original mytharc. I remember CC saying he wanted a new story because the other was dragging on or something.
I still think that the super soldiers are like a slave race, I think they still probably do as they're told by the aliens? Maybe? I dont know, there wasnt a lot of explaining. I also think that the government doing these tests and creating the super soldiers WERE working for the aliens. Much like the syndicate were making the "slave race" ... the government was abducting people, doing the tests ect. So I think the super soldiers are created by the government and aliens who are working together.
what proof did he *ever* have that Kersh was directly involved with Knowle Rohrer and Agent Crane? He saw them coming out of Kersh's office in the middle of the night in Existence or Essence - one of the eps.
I'm just flat out confused by Skinner's sudden inability to do anything except be mean and suspicious and non-helpful.He's non-helpful to
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I just wish it was easier to make the old myth arc mesh with the new. Back in the day, everybody was concerned with preventing the successful creation of a hybrid, because they wanted to make us a slave race with no defenses against the colonists or the black oil. Now all of a sudden everybody's all about making super soldiers, which, like I said, is pretty much the exact opposite of slaves. And you're right, there's too little explanation; they never confirm that the men behind the super soldier experiments are working with (or for) the aliens, so it's hard to tell how everything is related. It's so frustrating!
Why did Scully and Mulder ask Skinner to be non-helpful to Doggett? You'd think Mulder would want to help Doggett as much as possible, now that he's in charge of the X-Files office.
And that begs the question: What does any of this have to do with the old original myth arc? Pretty much nothing. And therein lies (one of) the problem with what they tried to pull at this point. No dice!
But I finally put my finger on something: One of the reasons Season 9 bugs me so much is that in this two-part opener, they abruptly switch us, the audience, from M&S's point of view to Doggett and Reyes' point of view. I know that sounds obvious, but think about it: For seven years, we knew as much as M&S knew. We figured things out along with them, and we saw everything the way they saw it. Now we're suddenly discovering things along with Doggett and Reyes. Our precious Scully is KEEPING SECRETS FROM US. She and Mulder had a conversation and decided all this stuff without us, and now she won't even let us in on the plan. We're suddenly seeing everything from Doggett and Reyes' point of view, and we don't know everything that Scully knows anymore. I HATE IT. But at least it makes me feel a little better now understanding *why* these episodes bug me so much
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Scully says to Skinner, in her apartment, "Mulder can't know. He can't be brought back into this. He can't be brought back into the FBI. It's just too dangerous for him right now." WHAT? Why is it so much more dangerous for Mulder than for Scully or the baby?
I dont know, really. Maybe they think Scully is passive and wont tell anyone that the super soldiers are buddies with people in the FBI (and they would actually be right, she is now lame!season9!Scully) unlike Mulder who would do anything he could about it - hence why his life is the only one in danger, apparently. In the first half of this arc Kersh tells Doggett that he told Mulder to leave to save his life, but it was Scully who convinced him to go. I just ... dont get it.
This is frustrating too, because it's hard to believe that Mulder would just accept this, you know? "Oh, I'm too stubborn and would never it let go, so I might as well leave my family and just go wander around in the desert for a year." What? Hell no! That's what gets me about this plot device. David's gone, yes, so they have to make up a story to explain it. But it just SUCKS that they couldn't come up with something more believable in terms of the character's personality than this.
As for the whole Mulder-is-just-gone thing, this bugs me to no end. I agree. If they had given us a logical explanation why Mulder had to leave, maybe I even would've been okay with it. We could've imagined him being out there somewhere, doing... SOMETHING. LOL You know, fighting against the colonization, the conspiracy, finding out what's up with William... I don't know, ANYTHING. But all we got was "he's gone". Like... where, why, doing what? Argh. Pisses me off.
And I also agree on the first-name thing. I don't mind it at all that Doggett and Reyes call her "Dana", somehow it fits.
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AHAH. It was always a hope of mine.
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I still think that the super soldiers are like a slave race, I think they still probably do as they're told by the aliens? Maybe? I dont know, there wasnt a lot of explaining. I also think that the government doing these tests and creating the super soldiers WERE working for the aliens. Much like the syndicate were making the "slave race" ... the government was abducting people, doing the tests ect. So I think the super soldiers are created by the government and aliens who are working together.
what proof did he *ever* have that Kersh was directly involved with Knowle Rohrer and Agent Crane?
He saw them coming out of Kersh's office in the middle of the night in Existence or Essence - one of the eps.
I'm just flat out confused by Skinner's sudden inability to do anything except be mean and suspicious and non-helpful.He's non-helpful to ( ... )
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Why did Scully and Mulder ask Skinner to be non-helpful to Doggett? You'd think Mulder would want to help Doggett as much as possible, now that he's in charge of the X-Files office.
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Pretty much nothing. And therein lies (one of) the problem with what they tried to pull at this point. No dice!
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I dont know, really. Maybe they think Scully is passive and wont tell anyone that the super soldiers are buddies with people in the FBI (and they would actually be right, she is now lame!season9!Scully) unlike Mulder who would do anything he could about it - hence why his life is the only one in danger, apparently. In the first half of this arc Kersh tells Doggett that he told Mulder to leave to save his life, but it was Scully who convinced him to go. I just ... dont get it.
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I agree. If they had given us a logical explanation why Mulder had to leave, maybe I even would've been okay with it. We could've imagined him being out there somewhere, doing... SOMETHING. LOL You know, fighting against the colonization, the conspiracy, finding out what's up with William... I don't know, ANYTHING. But all we got was "he's gone". Like... where, why, doing what? Argh. Pisses me off.
And I also agree on the first-name thing. I don't mind it at all that Doggett and Reyes call her "Dana", somehow it fits.
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This ep is boring. Then alluvasudden - BOMB ON BOAT!! AH!
The sound of the mobile squeaking over the end credits reminded me of Badlaa. EWWW.
Awesome mythology discussion in this thread, btw.
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