the vegan LJ group i am in recently had a post about a "vegan" who got so drunk that they ate a cheese pizza (and others replied with worse eating habits while drunk
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"i'm gonna guess that no one would have the same happy go lucky "oh well, don't do it next time" attitude if it was something other than a non-human animal that was the end product of the drunkenness. "oh date rape is ok if you're drunk, i mean it sucks, but just try better next time." right."
i really wanted to say something along those lines, but i know the responses would have been something like "you can't compare eating a cheese pizza to something thats obviously wrong!" or "well, the pizza had already been BOUGHT so the damage had been done!"
blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
sometimes i think i am insane and i know a lot of others do because i view so many things in black and white. its nice to know i'm not the only person on the planet to realize that some things just are what they are, not a hundred other weak shades of grey.
Although i agree that whatever is done while drunk doesn't exempt someone from taking responsibility for their actions...
i do take exception to your example - equating rape with eating an animal product - not by the vague emotionally based responses such as "they just aren't the same", but rather because the direct effect to the victim's emotional state is entirely different. If you were to equate raping an individual while drunk with raping an animal while drunk, then I would be with you 100%.
i agree there is a difference, but i think it is in the fact that the action has already been done to the animal, the drunk individual is just paying for (and implicitly supporting the) further (or previous) torture and/or confinement of a living being.
which i would argue could be much worse (an entire life of confinement, emotional abuse, and torture) than the emotional state of a single incident to a human.
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i really wanted to say something along those lines, but i know the responses would have been something like "you can't compare eating a cheese pizza to something thats obviously wrong!" or "well, the pizza had already been BOUGHT so the damage had been done!"
blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
sometimes i think i am insane and i know a lot of others do because i view so many things in black and white. its nice to know i'm not the only person on the planet to realize that some things just are what they are, not a hundred other weak shades of grey.
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i do take exception to your example - equating rape with eating an animal product - not by the vague emotionally based responses such as "they just aren't the same", but rather because the direct effect to the victim's emotional state is entirely different. If you were to equate raping an individual while drunk with raping an animal while drunk, then I would be with you 100%.
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which i would argue could be much worse (an entire life of confinement, emotional abuse, and torture) than the emotional state of a single incident to a human.
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DESTROY THE MACHINES!!!
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