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archangel3301 July 19 2004, 08:21:52 UTC
ok heres what you do, find someone who has empowered themselves for the last 40 years, and find someone whos believed in a higher being, for that last 40 years, find out which ones happier, which one youd want to rule this country, which one youd want rasing you as a child. then after youve done that, come back to me and, depending what you say, ill believe in empowering myself.

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paperxxtiger July 19 2004, 08:36:23 UTC
I agree with you... maybe just because I believe in God. I'm not saying this goes for everyone, maybe just the weak, but a lot of times if people believe in no superior being they often believe THEY are a superior being, and are a greater significance than everyone around them. I guess for some it's just comfort to fall back on, but it's the only thing keeping them with hope of the future. Sorry if no one agrees, these are just my thoughts. <3
-I'd like to go to your bday thingy Kiel, but I think stuff would get messed up. <3

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xktulux9 July 19 2004, 08:54:15 UTC
That's exactly it, I really don't want to offend you, although I most likely will. It's something to fall back on. When most achieve something, they congratulate themselves, but when they fail, it was "God's plan".
People should believe they are superior beings. Superior, meaning that no one should be able to change their life but them. It's the best way to keep self-respecr. People should realize that they can change their own fate.

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xktulux9 July 19 2004, 08:54:48 UTC
-Oh, and I understand. <3

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archangel3301 July 19 2004, 13:45:02 UTC
whether you believe in a god or not, look at past military and political figures. some were great men, some were great women, and most of the leaders who formed this country were christians, what im asking you to do, is while you dont believe in our god, or a god in general, at least accept that our religion works, and is a good thing, not a bad thing.

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emptywindow July 20 2004, 11:05:15 UTC
The military has nothing to do with it. That's mixing up religion and government which tends to be two opposite forces that work together now a days which shouldn't. Right, kiel? The whole "do you swear to god on the holy bible that you didn't kill this man?"

Courtrooms are forms of law inforcement that still use the bible to inforce rules.

God is everywhere. On our money, in our american speeches, with george bush. Just look at him try to make bible rules laws. The government is as full of shit as the religion itself.

Right bush?

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