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Apr 18, 2004 15:11

I'm home.

For the record, I didn't use this journal for bragging purposes, I just knew that it'd be the best way for people to keep in contact with me. You all act like my going on an adventure was a huge surprise, come on!As for you who criticize the choice I made, may I ask you why you still bother with work/school? Exactly what would I be ( Read more... )

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moira_can_bite April 18 2004, 15:29:34 UTC
i bother with work and school because i like learning. if you don't, perhaps you shouldn't be in school. a major part of learning is to help you find/get a job that you will like.. i don't really know what you'd be throwing away if you ran away permanently, but i think if you're going to do so, you have to tell people where you're going and keep in touch and all that, because you ought to be responsible about it.

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xxuberstumpxx April 18 2004, 15:55:41 UTC
Learning happens outside of the classroom when you take it upon yourself to learn about what interests you! You don't need school to learn!

As for keeping in touch, as I explained, I used livejournal for that.

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katyfrancis April 18 2004, 16:59:36 UTC
For what I want to do, I do need a school to learn! I *want to be in a school to learn essential things for my future, I don't want to try to half-ass it and figure it out on my own when you've got a supply of brilliant people who love to teach (professors).That is not logical. I think, and forgive me because I've been reading a lot of college info books lately, but there are just certain things that all educated adults should be able to discuss- certain books(Ulysses), works of art (Mona Lisa, the Last Supper), philosophers (keirkegaard), etc...and that is just so much more well done in a school enviroment with a cirriculum designed to force understanding and the analytical skills to form your own ideas and opinions as well. Things you should be able to do before you step out into the world on your own life conquest. All politics aside, that sort of learning does a lot for you and your mind in general. And no matter what you want to do, plot a revolution or work in a grocery store your whole life, that will only benefit you ( ... )

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xxuberstumpxx April 18 2004, 17:38:09 UTC
I don't question the idea that it's beneficial to learn wonderful things from brilliant people. My objection to schooling is when it's institutionalized, required, and enforced. And how exactly does school teach me things I should know before I step out into the world on my own terms? I've never taken a class on spanging, dumpster diving, table scoring, etc. I've never taken a class on creating healthy environments within my community, based on love and respect, as opposed to competition and greed; and even then, it would be forced and emotionless like every other aspect of schooling.

If someone wants to go to school, I have no problem with that. My issue is with those who criticize the decisions that others and I make, without stopping to contemplate the fallbacks of their own.

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first_of_may April 21 2004, 22:58:09 UTC
actually, at my high school, there is a class on how to create healthy environments within my community. the class is called "Environmental Justice" and it's all about how low-income/minority communities mobilize & work together to challenge waste management companies that are polluting their environment.

unfortunately, my school is "independent" (aka - private), and judging by the way budget spending is going for education, i would probably be bored & disappointed in a public school too.

but within a subject that could seem rather dull & completely unrelated to real life (example: renaissance europe), there are themes and concepts that can really affect your perception of the modern world. then again, that's just my opinion. but it also really helps to have a good teacher, and that's something that many schools are at a loss for right now...

[ps - sorry to intrude on your journal, but i'm a friend of Katy's and was really interested in this topic]

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xxuberstumpxx April 18 2004, 17:38:47 UTC
Oh, thanks for the welcome back!

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anonymous April 18 2004, 17:38:39 UTC
There is a difference between life experiences and learning. The fact that you are able to speak and write and type today are all evidences of either school or someone else teaching you how to do those things. Life isn't just about school and work. But in order to actually sustain yourself when you leave your home, believe it or not, you need to have some knowledge. Being a street person will get you nowhere.
- Hannah

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xxuberstumpxx April 18 2004, 17:46:31 UTC
I don't question the fact that I learned to read and write from school, but that doesn't mean these things couldn't have been taught outside of a school setting. As I stated before, I don't have a problem with learning from people. I have a problem with the idea of schooling as it stands in our society. Being a wage-slave will get you nowhere.

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gargoylisous April 18 2004, 17:54:08 UTC
im so glad you are back!

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xxuberstumpxx April 18 2004, 18:02:37 UTC
Not glad to be back! How are you Ben?

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littlewashou April 19 2004, 08:22:09 UTC
WASSUP ANARCHY!!!!!!!

DID YOU BREAK ANY WINDOWS WHILE YOU WERE GONE????

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xxuberstumpxx April 19 2004, 11:53:31 UTC
That was clever, Ernst.

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