I don't even go here or have ever really seen this show but I've seen the rage on my dash and wow that really fucking sucks. I can't imagine how pissed I'd if a season was centered around one ship getting married, only to divorce them in the last few minutes of the series, not even getting into the Ted/Robin and Ted/the mother stuff. ACK.
I KNOW, RIGHT? I'm not even angry as a shipper (like, wow, I can't imagine what the Barney/Robin shippers are feeling right now), but as someone who loved this show and these characters and thought they had some wonderful growth- to watch them regress like this and for a bunch of stuff to happen without any emotional base behind it (LIKE THE MOTHER DYING, THE DIVORCE) seems like a terrible joke at the expense of the audience.
You don't do things like divorce a beloved couple or kill off a well-liked character without doing the emotional prep work. They didn't prepare their audience for that finale.
Y E S. Like, I remember everyone was pretty 'meh' about the mother when she was first introduced, but I've literally never seen a character that people either disliked or were indifferent to, building such a STRONG support base in such a short while. People REALLY warmed up to her, so to make her some sort of second fiddle to Ted's One True Love, just. And the divorce, of course, after an ENTIRE SEASON of build-up. It's genuinely the most bizarre writing choices it was possible for the show to make. It's so random and awful, idek what to say.
I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it. Not outraged though...maybe underwhelmed? I'm curious what you would've rather seen them do with the finale (not being an ahole just honestly curious for your perspective). I was never sold on Barney/Robin...I think it was the whole "love of a good woman changing a man" that didn't sit well with me. I liked Barney for who he was, and it felt realistic where they went with him. Things not working with Robin, a consequence finally catching up with him...
And I guess friends can grow apart when lie gets crazy? Idk that was a little depressing but like I said idk...I am curious though to know what exactly people didn't like about the finale.
I am so disappointed, I can't actually ever remember having been this disappointed by any television show ever. And honestly, I don't really ship Barney/Robin at all, not since, maybe for a while when they slept together first, but never really after that, so this is definitely not about shipping for me, personally. What I find most galling is that the show bailed on its own central conceit; that they somehow turned the clock back on nine years of character development just to have a cheap GOTCHA pot-shot at the fan base.
I genuinely don't deny the creators their story; but this was the most badly planned, badly executed thing I've ever seen (and apparently it's been in the works since the second season.) It was the creators sticking to a storyline that they once had in mind all that time ago, while the characters literally outgrew it. If they wanted to tell the Ted/Robin story, they COULD have. But an entire season centered around Barney and Robin's wedding ending with them divorced about three minutes later? It's just really poor
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It's not that I liked it...it kinda left me with nothing? Which sucks after being a fan of the show for YEARS, but not that disappointing because I haven't been nearly as into the show as I used to be. I could not agree more with your idea about the finale being what they did the entire last (few) seasons. That would have made it entirely more satisfying for me.
And just to clarify it's not about shipping with me either...I'm not a B/R or T/R shipper (B/L!).
I can imagine; I'm nowhere near as emotionally invested as I once was, but this finale just ruined so much for me that now the entire series, if I ever decide to rewatch, will be tainted by knowing how much of it is going to be retconned. There is NOTHING to suggest that Ted and Robin are now better for each other than they once were, so to make that the finale (at the expense of SO MANY EPISODES based just around these characters moving on) you've to give us a solid base, which they did not even attempt to do. Like I read somewhere, I don't even think my expectations were too high, I think the writers genuinely failed.
BARNEY/LILY IS TOTALLY MY SHIP TOO OFC. I've always maintained that :D
LIKE, IT'S INSANE. EVERYONE JUST ENDED UP WHERE THEY STARTED, LIKE WE HADN'T SPENT NINE YEARS WITH THEM. And it wasn't even well done, it was completely rushed and random (we don't even know what the mother died of, like.) I genuinely felt like it would turn around by the end, that everything that was happening was a huge joke/troll, and some kind of alternate life that could have existed if a different story had been told. I LEGIT DID NOT EVEN REALIZE THAT IT WAS THE ACTUAL END.
I am super behind on this, and all. I don't think it's a shipping thing for me. I could see---Ted/Robin but if you were going to do it, I...think you needed to frame that a hell of a lot better and a loooott earlier, perhaps a whole season ago with what they were saying. I guess we are looking at a fridging here? But a really quick one. A very--uh, bizarre one. I'm more mad about the Mother idea than the shipping to be honest, that really throws me.
S A M E. I agree with everything you said. This isn't a shipping thing for me at all either, since I didn't particularly ship anything except Barney/Lily, which I always knew was never going to happen anyway, and it didn't impede my enjoyment of the show one bit. I think I feel so super disappointed in this show right now, because it's one that I really asked nothing of. In lots of other shows, I have my ships and investments, and my interest in the show is sometimes contingent on those, but here, I was genuinely willing to go along with whatever they gave us and enjoy each character and their arc without demanding anything of it. So, for them to bail on their own narrative, their own conceit, and short-end me on what THEY set up, what I was just going along with because that's what they gave me, actually makes me feel personally affronted.
Now I'm a Barney/Robin shipper always have been, but I feel like if I was a Ted/Robin shipper I'd be just as upset. This was the worst way to put two people together in the history of everything.
I always felt the writers had a tiny tendency to ignore character growth and suddenly make people do OOC things, but...this is like the biggest OOC/narrative/show/logic I've ever seen, for everyone. Every character. What the hell kind of sandwiches were they smoking?
I'd DEFINITELY be upset if I were a Ted/Robin shipper, that was the most random, unjustified, arbitrary way to get them together, that negated nine years of development of not only their individual characters but also their relationship with each other.
I thought these writers were fantastic in some aspects, even if they used the bait-and-switch too often; like the episode where Robin finds out she's infertile and spends the episode telling her story to her imaginary kids that she never wanted anyway, but had to let go of the idea of entirely. That was beautiful, even while using the same device.
But this undermined so much more than just the shipping aspect, it undermines some of the fundamentals of the show itself and makes me believe I gave too much credit to the writers when they didn't deserve it at all.
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And I guess friends can grow apart when lie gets crazy? Idk that was a little depressing but like I said idk...I am curious though to know what exactly people didn't like about the finale.
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I genuinely don't deny the creators their story; but this was the most badly planned, badly executed thing I've ever seen (and apparently it's been in the works since the second season.) It was the creators sticking to a storyline that they once had in mind all that time ago, while the characters literally outgrew it. If they wanted to tell the Ted/Robin story, they COULD have. But an entire season centered around Barney and Robin's wedding ending with them divorced about three minutes later? It's just really poor ( ... )
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And just to clarify it's not about shipping with me either...I'm not a B/R or T/R shipper (B/L!).
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BARNEY/LILY IS TOTALLY MY SHIP TOO OFC. I've always maintained that :D
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Like. I have no words.
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Now I'm a Barney/Robin shipper always have been, but I feel like if I was a Ted/Robin shipper I'd be just as upset. This was the worst way to put two people together in the history of everything.
I always felt the writers had a tiny tendency to ignore character growth and suddenly make people do OOC things, but...this is like the biggest OOC/narrative/show/logic I've ever seen, for everyone. Every character. What the hell kind of sandwiches were they smoking?
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I thought these writers were fantastic in some aspects, even if they used the bait-and-switch too often; like the episode where Robin finds out she's infertile and spends the episode telling her story to her imaginary kids that she never wanted anyway, but had to let go of the idea of entirely. That was beautiful, even while using the same device.
But this undermined so much more than just the shipping aspect, it undermines some of the fundamentals of the show itself and makes me believe I gave too much credit to the writers when they didn't deserve it at all.
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