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pumpsnail October 18 2006, 01:21:15 UTC
Well, fuck.

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amaskforophelia October 18 2006, 01:40:52 UTC
Ummmn.. So who wants to leave the country now? I think I do. Where shall we go? Somewhere cool.. maybe India? South Africa? Ghana?

I would suggest Canada, but it's really just too damn cold.

How about Japan?

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nogib October 18 2006, 02:18:32 UTC
I wholeheartedly applaud this. About f'n time we took the gloves off. Countries with harsher treatment of criminals don't have nearly the problems we do. Show no mercy.

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tony_lt October 18 2006, 03:24:25 UTC
I would like to add, (Even though this comment will preceed my other)

Countries with much less harsh treatment of criminals also don't have nearly the problems we do.

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yuji October 18 2006, 06:26:36 UTC
It's not so much harsher treatment of criminals that's scary. I mostly agree with other countries views on that.

It's the fact that now our President can pull anyone he wants off the street, put them in prison, and not have to have a reason for it. They also don't have the option to bring a trial to court. That. is. scary.

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tony_lt October 18 2006, 03:15:34 UTC
I don't think this will make it past the Supreme Court. But whatever, our president is an asshole, and pushed a bill through that he knows wouldn't clear past elections when both the house and senate have a major party swing to the democrates. It doesn't affect us anymore than it did last week...I mean...unless any of you happen to be currently detained by the government for war crimes? In which case, enjoy being penitrated daily with barbed clubs and never getting a trial.

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ershinmn October 20 2006, 04:41:31 UTC
Paul, it has nothing to do with the "treatment of criminals". (okay technically it does deal with that, but that isn't the main issue)

This bill in effect says that the government can arrest legal non-citizens of the United States, hold them indefinitely, torture them, and not ever charge them with a crime/inform them of what they are under arrest for. It abolishes the need for search warrants as well.

Rather than the treatment of criminals, it has much more to do with the creation of them. It's basically "if you aren't a citizen, we can come into your house, decide you're a criminal and arrest you forever and ever because we say so".

And come on, Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo weren't exactly handling people with kid gloves, we "took them off" years ago. This is just adding fuel to a fire that's already out of control.

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