Mob wrangling

[zanfur]

I often do things that anger people.

Yeah, what else is new, right? Everyone does. One of the things that's somewhat different, in my case, is that I often know I'm doing it. I often do it on purpose, knowing that it will anger someone.

Comments

[forwrathandruin]

Man, when you post, you post hard.

We need to make with the chai-house-ing again soon. [event horizon]I have such wonderful things... to show you... [/event horizon]

[zanfur]

I'm free pretty much whenever.

[sonofzeal]

If forcing people to be accountable for their actions and desires makes them angry, let them being angry. Being responsible for yourself is part of being an adult. It's part of others being able to trust and respect you, and part of being able to take care of yourself when other people aren't around.

[zanfur]

That's pretty much how I feel. I think I may bit a bit over-abrasive when I do it, though. I'm trying to find nicer ways ...

[ariata]

One of the things that's someone different, in my case, is that I often know I'm doing it

someone = somewhat

[zanfur]

Fixed, thanks.

[danodude]

You know, I often find your posts intriguing in the sense that they look at people in a different light. They also call out issues that I think most of us don't look into all the time (like being a doormat). I do, however, find myself not always agreeing with your conclusions on how to deal with these problems. Such is life.

Was going to comment more.. but obligations...

[goldfish42]

Hmm. I agree with you in theory, but I find that in practice many people in our culture get really confused and even offended by direct requests. I have learned to speak the language that gets things done (not instead, but as well) for when I'm dealing with people who simply can't cope with direct mature language.

When I think about it, it pisses me off that all communication is expected to sidle up next to people and nudge them discreetly. Kinda icky, really, like the request is illegal and amoral instead of respectable. Maybe people do see any request as a bit amoral, any need as weak and presumptuous. I wonder if that is unique to America, home of The Individualist, where we try to pretend humans are not parts of an interdependant social network.

I had a customer last night who made me laugh: I asked him if he knew the price of something that was not labeled. He looked straight at me, smiled, and said "Yes."

[aladnsane]

In terms of 'other cultures' I know that atleast linguistically Spanish, French, German, Japanese (especially) and Chinese can be just as indirect. Which implies that the nations have similar attitudes, whatever those attitudes may be.

[zanfur]

I'm pretty sure nearly all natural languages can be indirect

[aladnsane]

Note that this was in response to a comment on your post, not your post.

That should clarify.