Extraterrestrial Intelligence and Dark Matter

[zorander22]

Hello everyone! In this edition of My Webl, the focus will be on advanced civilizations in the universe, and a link with dark matter. Perhaps it is a far-fetched explanation, but it seems to make sense to me

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Re: The Earth is Flat!

[zorander22]

I hope I don't disappoint everyone... My Grandpa is coming to visit it to see me preach!

I'll post it probably a bit after Sunday... just in case anything changes last minute. Thanks again for your interest :)

[beachofdreams]

I have a question: is the civilization advanced because it uses a lot of energy, or does it use a lot of energy because it is advanced?

[zorander22]

I think energy consumption is one way to measure how advanced a civilization is... but not the only way. I'd say it uses a lot of energy because it is advanced, not the other way around. Presumably more advanced technology requires more energy. It's possible this isn't necessarily true, but if a civilization were to keep on growing, it would require more and more energy, even if the energy needed for certain technology went down (which seems unlikely). A civilization able to grow and use the entire energy of a planet or star would, at least in my mind, have to be advanced to be able to do so.

[thewowisnow]

Really cool ideas!

I had to chuckle at Kardashev's measure of a civilization.

Our own civiliazation, in the current climate of unsustainable development and the environmental crisis, (not quite as severe back in Kardy's heyday) we may be steadily approaching that lofty perch of a TYPE I Civ.

The only difference is, our Earth will keel over and die and then we won't have much of a civilization at all.

Cool Webl Mr. Dan, always fun to read.
-Kev-

[zorander22]

It's good to see you around, it's been awhile!

I really hope that our Earth won't keel over and die. I'll do what I can to try to stop something like that from happening... hopefully I'll get a new environmental group up and running at York, we'll see :)

[thewowisnow]

I hope so too. It's no comfort, though, that a lot of environmentalists say we are already beyond the point of no return. I hope that's them trying to urge us out of complacency, as opposed to actually being the truth.

There's such an emphasis on modernity these days. How are we going to balance the right of the developing world to industriliaze, against the incapacity of our world to sustain it? Even if we address that, how are we really going to justify curbing modernization practices against all our own excesses?

"Well, we have it now which is great, but you can't, sorry, planet's dying."

I can't imagine how that's going to happen.

Can you envision some sort of multilateral agreement that lets the developing world achieve a measure of modernity, while the developed world agrees to scale back? I really don't know about that.

:(

Which blows.
-Kev-

[thewowisnow]

P.S.

Star Trek TNG had an episode ft. a Dyson's Sphere. :D

[galena417]

Daniel, I like the way you've strung those ideas together. It does make sense, to me, at least!

Good luck with your sermon & enjoy the rest of your summer.

[zorander22]

Thank you, I'm glad you don't think I'm completely crazy for suggesting it!

Thanks for the luck, I hope you have a great rest of the summer too.