Comments | 944_nightmare: What do you think?

944_nightmare

What do you think?

Sep 08, 2005 14:37

I think its pretty well decided that I'm going to buy a bike. It's down to:

1. This is a killer bike, it will dust 800's and 900's and its the 20th anniversary edition

2. Honda and their tried tested and true reliablity and sexiness with this nice 800 CC

3. Suzuki's sport touring 750 that combines speed with a bit more comfortMy insurance ( Read more... )

Comments 21

dreamstate7 September 8 2005, 20:30:58 UTC

Yes, I very strongly advise against a novice getting a Super Sport bike as their starter bike.

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My personal opinion:

The GSX-R series bikes are, and this is quoted on any of their webpages, brochures, w/e, engineered for experienced riders.

They, along with the Yamaha R series and Honda's CBR F series are essentially bikes plucked from the race track, and modified to a bare minimum to make them street legal.

Bear in mind you are climbing on board a motorcycle intended primarily for racing and competition when climbing on the class known as "Super Sport ( ... )

944_nightmare September 8 2005, 21:41:01 UTC

The baddest bike on the block isn't the deciding factor... its the fact that I don't want a sport touring or be halfway through financing a smaller bike and find I'm no longer able to have fun because I've experienced everything that bike has to offer.. A super sport bike is only as dangerous as the hands of the owner you put on it. Quite frankly being on the back of yours and Chris' and feeling you two driving them hard scared me into ensuring I am responsible. I had no control over those situations whereas now I will and feel confident that I can control the power on this Gixxer because I'm in no rush to the grave. Therefore I'll be driving her like a grandma takes her car to church on Sundays.

dreamstate7 September 8 2005, 22:09:46 UTC

"No longer able to have fun because I've experienced everything that bike has to offer."

I'm riding a 450, and last I checked, still having plenty of fun. :) To each their own.

... No offense Chris, but you say you feel confident that you can control the power on a Gixxer?

You haven't even ridden on open roads. You have next to nothing to back up that statement. Nothing... and I'd think you'd manage to drive it slow for maybe a day. Look who you're talking to here ... who do ya think you're kidding? :P ( ... )

944_nightmare September 8 2005, 22:30:31 UTC

To be sitting on the back of your bike and Chris' bike nearly shitting my pants when he ripped around town and when you were all pissed off that day and i was holding on to the back of your dads bike wondering if i should tell you i'll take transit home or when we were almost side swiped by that blue suburban on the 401 when it was raining has more than pounded home my decision to ride safely. I know i can rip around in a car and not have to worry so much but a bike is a different story and i'll be too worried about hurting myself or the bike to ride like a fucking moron that you usually see riding a sport bike. I am not getting a bike to ride around like a jackass weaving in and out of traffic, i am merely in it for the feeling of the open road and to prevent the exact problem you are having right now and thats wanting a bigger bike. I didn't mean i was confident i could control the full power of a Gixxer but i feel i can control myself as to how much throttle i use. How many times must i tell people, I AM NOT IN A RUSH TO THE GRAVE ( ... )

Thread 5

stephenmblundon September 8 2005, 20:49:14 UTC

I'd not vote for any bike over 600 to start with. Take a summer with it and try to get a lot of road time, both by yourself and then with a passenger. You may have ridden before, but you're anything but a pro.

And if you want to blow money and still get the women wet, get a Ducati.

And don't take this as encouragement to prove us wrong because that is the absolute last thing I want.

Man, I am the most reckless person you'll ever meet - and bikes are not something to be fucked with.

Out of everyone you know, I'm assuming Steve has the most bike experience. I'd take what he says very seriously in this. Don't make us have to say we told you so when something real shitty happens.

944_nightmare September 8 2005, 21:46:37 UTC

I don't want to blow money but I'm not dropping 8 or 9 grand on a new 600 sport touring only to be 3 years into the 5 year loan and be dissatisfied with the extent of what I can do with it. A super sport GSX-R600 will be enough power when I'm starting off to scare me into being safe and when I'm comfortable with it I'll be able to open her up and feel what she was really built for. If I'm going to spend 9000 on a sport touring only to have to buy a super sport later for 12000 then what the fuck was the use of paying 8000 just to find out I still need a super sport.

stephenmblundon September 8 2005, 21:58:53 UTC

You just shot down your whole argument by saying you'd be scared of your bike.

Why the fuck would you want to be scared of something you want to master? Fear leads to mistakes. And it would more than suit any of your speeding needs. Is 200km/h not good enough for you?

Do you have any ideas how little it takes to be dislodged from a horse at that speed?

944_nightmare September 8 2005, 22:04:28 UTC

I'd be fearful of opening it up too much when learning how to drive it, but thats the same for any bike. There's a certain amount of time it takes to learn the ins and outs of that bike. I just don't want a bike I'm going to become bored of in a couple years. The GSX-R600 will take me up to speeds in excess of 200km/h but thats not what I want it for. I want manouverability and a nimble bike thats lightweight and easy to throw around. I could care less if I could drive insanely fast all because it takes maybe 20 km/h to throw you off the bike

Thread 10

____paradox____ September 8 2005, 21:01:08 UTC

Wow those are pretty powerful for a first bike. I want a wicked bike too. But I'm definately going to get a used 650 or so to learn with for at least a year. I figure... if I crash it or drop it, at least I can learn from those mistakes on a less expensive bike I don't care so much about. I wouldn't go over 700 for my first bike and I probably weigh almost double what you do man. But if you must know.... IMO the honda looks like best...but maybe I'm biased because it's the only one in black.

944_nightmare September 8 2005, 21:47:27 UTC

*see response to steve's and steve's comments*

_creepy_ September 8 2005, 22:05:10 UTC

Hmmm if my brother ends up selling his Hayabusa, I should let you know. . Although it is also wicked fast and probably isn't good as a first. Greg bought it as his first and admitted to nearly being scared to ride it, but he was just insanely careful and took his time getting used to it. He's only thinking of getting rid of it to buy a Bourget Python.
I will say that anytime it comes to getting a bike, It is ALWAYS recommended to start on something less aggressive so you can learn. This is not like hopping into a fast car. Remember, there's only a bike between you and the road, so you don't want to fuck around and test your limits AT ALL. I agree with what the fellas above had to say about it :)

_creepy_ September 8 2005, 22:16:45 UTC

Btw.. for looks. I like the Suzuki best. Although I've seen the 2005 Interceptor in metallic silver and that's pretty hot. I do really like the Black 2004, but I think if it wasn't such a matte black, it'd be just a little sexier. I don't like it in red at all.

heraldofchaos September 9 2005, 05:42:30 UTC

heres bizzarly my $0.02

i totaly agree with dream.

the second thing i was ever taught about motorcyles is never buy anything you cant pick up yourself.

the first thing i was taught is never ride anything out of your experince.

i love the big crotch rockets as much as the next guy, but seriously, what do you need that much power for? if its only the cool facter, look at the after market cowling mods.

though in my mind, you should look at what your planning to do with the bike, though chances are youd get by with a vespa scooter.