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Oct 30, 2005 23:26

I turned Prozac Nation off after forty-five minutes. It was too close, too much. Elizabeth Wurtzel is, for all intents and purposes, my sister: a preternaturally talented and brilliant writer who abuses herself, is disappointed with sex and so has more sex, wishes desperately to be close to the mother who strangles, exponentially exacerbating ( Read more... )

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paradox528 October 31 2005, 12:08:04 UTC
Sometimes when I'm driving, I look at a wall or a pole and think, it would be so easy to just turn the wheel. Then I remember things would be worse afterwards and I don't.

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Elizabeth Wurtzel : Humble :: Toby Keith : Malcolm X anonymous October 31 2005, 16:31:29 UTC
Biff Soupbone Here. I never saw Prozac Nation starring Wednesday of the Adams Family but I did read the book. Having honestly tried to read the book with an open mind I was left with the impression that Elizabeth Wurtzel was an adherent of the depression-as-illness syndrome. That's not to say she didn't have genuine problems; her attempt at solving every problem was simply to consume more drugs, have sex with more scumbags, and whine in such a way to make Aaron Lewis of Staind seem like Clint Eastwood in "The Unforgiven." She made no serious attempt to solve problems via serious self-examination; she merely discovers Prozac at the end of the book, and this is supposed to solve everything. That's not to say all of life's problem's solutions come in a day, but there is ZERO attempt to do anything constructive.

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Re: Elizabeth Wurtzel : Humble :: Toby Keith : Malcolm X mairzybzeider November 2 2005, 08:50:58 UTC
Whenever I watch a production where the issue of the peice is self-destruction I wonder how much of a classical cautioanary tale it is versus another opprotunity for the creator to wallow in their misery. I know that emotional issues can be devastating, I know that a chemical imbalance can control your world, but why is it necessary to roll over and let it? I get that you're a defeatist, do I have to watch you propel your self fulfilling prophecy for another hour and a half?

"That's not to say all of life's problem's solutions come in a day, but there is ZERO attempt to do anything constructive."

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triptothemoon October 31 2005, 19:24:12 UTC
It hit home to me too. I wish I had liked the film more. I thought she seemed much more bratty than I had expected. It sort of irked me because I haven't cheated with someone's bf or whatver, and I don't think those types of things are ok to blame on depression. I liked it for moments though, but yes, very hard to watch.

I think I am going to read the book. I hear it's a lot better.

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really? anonymous November 14 2005, 05:47:58 UTC
you should write more backhanded insults about your sister

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Re: really? __christopher November 15 2005, 01:11:47 UTC
THE FUCK??

I'm sorry that everyone evidently finds Elizabeth Wurtzel a notch beneath George Bush on the morality scale; I sure fucking don't, and what I was saying was that I recognized her. In no fuckng way, shape or form was I insulting my sister, backhandedly or explicitly. If anything, I was trying to explain empathy with Wurtzel, which has humanized her.

One of the maddening things about depression is that one who has is doesn't know where it stops and character flaw begins: is everything too overwhelming and hard or are you just lazy?; is impulsive behavior comforting or do you just like junk food/getting drunk/etc? There's just behavior with unclear motives. So, do you blame everything on the depression, a clear cut case of malingering, or is everything the fault of your disease? I don't know where it starts in Wurtzel's case, and I'm willing to wager she doesn't, either.

And if anyone thinks that an honest character assessment equals character assassination, you can fuck right off.

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