OotP Ch 15: The Hogwarts High Inquisitor

Jun 16, 2005 21:57

Ch 15: The Hogwarts High Inquisitor ( Read more... )

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cadesama June 17 2005, 02:58:22 UTC
Hmm, too bad they didn't mention how many people voted for and against the "High Inquisitor" legislation. Or, uh, even who it was who voted on that. Was it the Wizengamot? 'Cause having a judiciary, headed by the executive, that's also the legislature is a bad idea on so many, unfathomably deep levels ( ... )

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house_elf_44 June 17 2005, 04:41:37 UTC
I don't know if it's funny, or just sad that the self-confidence that inspired Harry's tirade about his accomplishments at the beginning of the book was so easily broken down to his unwillingness to take any credit for them.

I see it as an attitude adjustment. He thought too much of himself at #12, which he wrestled with, and now he has a more humble and accurate view of those events.

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cadesama June 17 2005, 05:04:43 UTC
Except that neither POV is accurate. Harry didn't pull all that stuff off on his own, but you certainly can't attribute it all to chance as he attempt to do here. It's an attitude adjustment, but it's a terrible one that's very reminiscent of the Harry who thought the Sorting Hat would send him home (or who told faux!Moody that he doesn't have any talents), imho. I was very glad of his attitude at number twelve, even though it bordered on arrogance, because it was the first sign of healthy self-esteem that we've ever seen.

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lockedsomewhere June 17 2005, 05:03:57 UTC
I don't know if it's funny, or just sad that the self-confidence that inspired Harry's tirade about his accomplishments at the beginning of the book was so easily broken down to his unwillingness to take any credit for them.

Well, at the beginning, he spouted off because he was being treated like an irresponsible child. Now that someone wants to put him in a position of authority, he's quick to back away from any direct involvement. Can't say I blame him. He was lucky in his past four years. Also, I don't think anyone has offered him any authority before. (He did get turned down for prefect.) I think anyone's first reaction would be reluctance (or modesty). After all, he does take it in the end...

McGonagall's gonna feel baaaad if/when she finds out the true nature of the detentions she said didn't have an effect on Harry. And the fact that Hermione agrees . . . well, I think that's pretty disgusting. Hypocritical too, since she was deliberately baiting Umbridge earlier. She's lucky that all Harry did was ignore her during ( ... )

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lunadeath02 June 17 2005, 07:46:32 UTC
First I must say that I love how you wrote about this chapter.

the new Hogwarts High Inquisitor™ and will be sticking her toadish nose even further up everyone's a...affairs in search of s...substantiation...

LOL!

Harry suddenly being asked to teach them. "About me what?" -- "What's an idea?" -- "But I'm not a teacher, I can't-" -- "Me? No I'm not..." Harry's such a cute, modest boy. :D

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lunadeath02 June 17 2005, 07:49:08 UTC
And I completely forgot to say "And" before that last sentence. But I'm sure you know what I meant. :D I hope.

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annearchy June 18 2005, 04:33:07 UTC
I loved the half-hearted retorts Harry was giving. His lips were saying No, No, but there was Yes, Yes in his grin, which kept getting bigger. So logically he's trying to dissuade them, but he can't help grinning at the idea of possibly doing this (and that Ron and especially Hermione think he's capable of it).

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schtroumph_c June 17 2005, 12:13:34 UTC
* If Harry made the efforts he made when he wants to prove something to Snape, he’ll have better grades since a while. Too bad, it’s a two part potion, and he’ll mess up all because of his curiosity.

* The Inner Eye does not See upon command.

Even if Trelawney is not the best Seer, she’s right, you can’t force a vision. Card and tea leaves if you want, but not a vision.

* She’s taken points off Gryffindor because I’m having my hand sliced open every night!

Harry, if you don’t say to McGonagall what happen during the detentions, she can’t know!

I doubt strongly that Umbridge told exactly what’s happening, Minerva probably think it’s only lines.

* Don’t be silly, girl,…

McGonagall too can be rough with her students.

* 39 years this December.

She began to teach well after the beginning of the year.

* I don’t understand why it’s difficult to Hermione to say Voldemort.

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muggle_prof June 17 2005, 18:16:14 UTC
If Harry made the efforts he makes when he wants to prove something to Snape, he’ll have better grades.
Yea, I think actually trying to do it right would help.
Snape tells them that "most of the class" would have failed OWLs based on their essays -- so whether he actually favors the Slyths or not, a good number of Slytherins must not have scored very well.

* I don’t understand why it’s difficult for Hermione to say Voldemort.
It almost seems out of character, because she is so adamant about not adopting any wizarding prejudices and she is usually so dependent on logic -- and what's the logic in thinking that not saying the name is somehow helpful?

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house_elf_44 June 17 2005, 13:26:45 UTC
Percy thinks Umbridge is a success. That's not a good sign for Percy. If my math is right, Lucius graduated just before Lily and James entered Hogwarts.

Harry got a D on his Moonstone essay, which is used to gain emotional balance. He got an A on his Transfiguration essay on Inanimatus Conjurus, but I don't see any meaning in that one.

Ron has no qualms about letting Hermione know he got a P. Looking for signs that he likes her, I'd have to say it isn't there yet, or it's not strong, because he doesn't care what she thinks about it.

I'm a little slow sometimes. I just got it that Sybil Trelawny has such big and strong glasses because she can't see very well. Now if I could only figure out why she is always described as an insect... McGonagall "saw" better when she told Harry he was heading for serious trouble ( ... )

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muggle_prof June 17 2005, 18:26:30 UTC
If my math is right, Lucius graduated just before Lily and James entered Hogwarts.
HP Lexicon has Lucius as a 7th year when Lily, MWPP and Snape where 1st years

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abigail89 June 17 2005, 17:38:38 UTC
I just lovelovelove Minerva McGonagall in this chapter. Not only does she handle The Toad magnificently, but then she lets her students know that she KNOWS she kicked butt.

Poor Harry. His self-flagallation knows no end, does it? And Hermione--in the first encounter with her at Sirius's house, she got very upset when Harry went off at them. Here, she speaks very calmly to him, not that he's a very small child, but more that she's trying to bring down the manic level Harry has reached. She has developed a really good insight in to him. Then, later on of course, she gets ticked off at him. It's really interesting to see how JKR develops Hermione's reactions to him.

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cadesama June 17 2005, 18:37:22 UTC
She has developed a really good insight in to him.

I totally disagree. I don't think anyone with good insight into someone would laugh at that person while recounting the various "adventures" (read: traumas) that he's gone through in recent years. My impression of Hermione is that she's barely clinging to the edge of their relationship. Sometimes what she does works, a lot of the time it doesn't. Her responses, when she controls them, pretty much only work as a stop gap measure.

Here, she speaks very calmly to him, not that he's a very small child, but more that she's trying to bring down the manic level Harry has reached.

Er, where does she talk him down calmly? Are you talking about the talk about the DA? 'Cause Hermione responds "timidly" after Harry explodes. I don't really see anywhere else this chapter where Harry's temper flares and we don't simply get a cut away to the next part.

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