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May 11, 2004 16:34

alright, so im kinda bummed. i got my poems back from mr. young and in the poem we basically copied for him i was too 'cryptic' and in the poem which i felt i put the most work into and i thought was my best he said, and i qoute 'what the fuck is this' apperently my style of writing isnt good at all and that because its not about something soild ( Read more... )

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anonymous May 11 2004, 20:11:13 UTC
that sucks about your poems, but you shouldn't listen to that ass hole, mr young. i've read your poems, and they are really good. trust me. mr. young can go eat shit. your writing is amazing.
please don't delete all your poems. you will regret it later. besides, think of all the time and effort you put into writing them and typing them. just, please don't delete them. for me?
and congrats on your french test. 31/40 is awesome *high five*
and im sure you did fine on your physics test. *hug* :)
<3

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a_mans_grace May 11 2004, 22:30:02 UTC
you havnt read all my poems, no one has. they are just sitting in a pile on my floor along with important reminders and thoughts that burst into my head. if you let me know who you were i could send you more of my poems so you can see just what they are really like.
and ill leave the poems on the floor for now and on my hard drive but only for now. it would really help if i knew who you were.
oh and im sure it was you who had commented on a previous post and you never answered so please answer. <3

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triscuitbox May 11 2004, 20:14:25 UTC
poets shouldn't critic other poets.

mr. young should like a dick by the way.
i've never talked to him.
but it seems from what i hear he is always trying to empress people or shock them.
what a dolt.

there is going to be no good english teachers next year.

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triscuitbox May 11 2004, 20:15:14 UTC
*sounds like a dick
lol

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polaroidharlot May 11 2004, 21:10:18 UTC
mr young is an incredible guy. he doesn't go for shock, or impressions. he goes for reality, and the real world--which in private school with a stick up its ass can be shocking, i suppose.

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a_mans_grace May 11 2004, 21:26:48 UTC
i really dont know what he wants, i have tried for the past 2 hours to write the way he wants to have it, and the way i guess he thinks it is but i just cant. its not me and im not it. but im glad you see that my poems should have a chance too.

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polaroidharlot May 11 2004, 21:11:56 UTC
delete the poems, but print them out and keep them. it'll be good for you to try a different style. i don't think that what he wants at all is meaningless--he wouldn't be a published, renowned speaker and author and teacher and editor, if it was so. take his advice with a grain of salt, lick your wounded pride, get back up on your feet, and just start to write again.

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a_mans_grace May 11 2004, 21:24:20 UTC
no the poems are gone entirly. if you didnt like my poems you should have just said so, i would have rather had the truth. i dont think mr. young understands my poems. and i think megans right, poets shouldnt critique other poets but i assume he was critiquing me as an english teacher but that doesnt mean theres still a poet there.
when i read real shit i find it fake, like why would someone want to write about it, why not write about a fanatsy where your imagination can roam free and you can create beauty from simple words that are on a page. everyone can make their own scene and its more complex and colorful then any of the ordinary poems about real shit.

i guess i just dont understand why my work which i held so close to me could be regarded as nothing but meaningless sounds that go well with each other and have no place to be read or to even be critiqued.

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polaroidharlot May 11 2004, 21:28:07 UTC
i do like your poems, and assuming i was lying is you being insecure because of this critique, which is understandable.

i don't think megan's right at all, and i firmly and utterly believe that it isn't he "doesn't understand" them, or wanted to rip them apart. he is criticising you to make you a better writer; to make you a poet to appeal to people, whose work can be comprehended and if that's not what you want don't give him your poetry. many people write purely for themselves and that's fine. so do that, if you don't want him to criticize you.

and i think it's ignorant of you to say that "ordinary poems" are boring. or to say any poems are ordinary--in saying htat, you are doing exactly what you're so angry about what you feel mr young did to you: you're completely invalidating and misunderstanding any other form of poetry.

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thesaurus_sylph May 11 2004, 22:21:09 UTC
just as an un-biased outsider...
how bout instead of trying "to write the way he wants"
Think about what he said
Dont take it too hard
in fact dont take it hard at all
most poets got TERRIBLE reveiws when they were just starting out
but on the other hand he is a published a very accomplished poet so maybe see if there is anythign he said you coudl work on...
I dunno
just an honest thought
:):)
and nice one on teh french test...i'm hoping for....20. maybe.

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a_mans_grace May 11 2004, 22:42:42 UTC
the thing is he didnt really say anything about my poem, well the one that i liked. and that i have a problem with, even though its not what he likes or what he thinks i should be writing he can at least critique because hes accomplished poet, he should have seen poems like this before. anyways i dont know what im going to do, ill just give him what he wants if i can produce it.

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leave him alone anonymous May 11 2004, 22:30:20 UTC
poetry should be a form self-expression, and its not right for a teacher to say its meaningless because if its meaningful to the poet that is what is most important. i think that for somebody who worked hard on his poems and simply wanted them to be appreciated, you should get a little more respect from some of your so-called "friends".

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Re: leave him alone thesaurus_sylph May 12 2004, 17:55:03 UTC
wow...i think this has been taken waaaaay outta hand!!!
Andy I think we are all reeeeally sorry about it. and i think we all think ints awsome that you enjoy expressing yourself through poetry. and what mr young says or doesnt say shouldnt be grounds for a full on fight:)

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