1 Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. 2 But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all men were as I am. But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.
a name...bueno...i agree with you jay...however i believe that couples should be granted rights such as being able to inherit property from the partner in such.... and before everyone replys...its my opinion and i know almost next to no one agrees with me...but still happy times
you do have a point about being able to inherit propriety and the such, but that is possible anyways. my girlfriend just filled out life insurance for work and she had to put down a person that would receive the payoff if she were to die. she has the right to put anyone she wants' to, whether it be a family member or anyone else she knows. the same thing goes for a will, a person can put anyone they like to get the estate. and the other rights of civil unions is to file taxes and whatnot jointly. now is it such a big deal to have that right and save a few dollars? i guess to some people it is, but the bible says...
1 Timothy 6, 10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
yes. i know what the bible says on the homosexual marraige thing. i just don't agree. i think that marriage is about love. if you love someone of the same sex you shouldn't have different rights than a person who loves someone of the opposite sex. if this is against a certian religion i feel that they shouldn't be able to get married in that religions place of worship but other than that oh well. i mean black and white people are allowed to get married...why shouldn't men and men or women and women. it's just another difference.
the fact is, in my opnion, gays should be able to be happy and married. they miss out on a lot of rights becasue of a union instead of marriage. and the thing is, you cannot make all people adhere to the rules of the bible, becasue thats not what our country is based on. (this isnt my original idea coming up...) to christians, gay marriage is just wrong. long time ago the earth being round was just wrong.
Emma you are wrong. This country was founded on the Bible and it's teachings. Everybody quotes from the Constitution, which is the law giving document of our country, but what about the Declaration of Independence? When reading about or talking about how our country was founded you can't mention one without the other. They go hand in hand. To leave one out is to say that part of our history doesn't matter anymore. And the Declaration of Independence is based on Biblical teachings, as Nicole quoted from in the second paragraph, but I quote the from first. The first paragraph written about our country, before the Constitution was written.
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the
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i didnt phrase what i meant to say right, my bad. but we have freedom of religion so you dont have to worhip the constitution's god. and not every single person in our government is a christian,let alone the same religion. maybe i just dont get what youre saying...is it that the government shouldnt make it legal because its againt your religion, or the nations religion that actually isnt the nations religion, or is it that your homophobic? im not sure i really get your point. and you said before that if you disagree on gay marriage becasue it is againt the bible, then you disagree with everything? (this is exactly what you said: marriage is about love, and if you don't agree with the bible on this topic then you aren't going to agree with the bible on anything.) what?! first of all, i dont think anyone disagreed that marriage was about love. but thats not the point. im sorry, but what about all the poeple who believe in predestination, or in free will? if their view is contridicting yours, are they going against your bible
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" - from the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. This country was founded on Life Liberty and Happiness in God. We are denying ourselves our God-given unalienable rights every time we sin, and homosexuality just happens to be the most recent most controversial one. And, if gay marriage was to become federally legal, that's denying me my unalienable right to keep marriage sacred - as it is intended to be. When I marry my husband, I don't want that tarnished in any way, by anyone. Now, not everyone in this discussion will really understand all that and how and why it is so important, but the people that should know who they are. If anyone here is going to claim faith in my God, stop dragging his name through the mud. If you can't/won;t do that, then stop claiming faith - because clearly, as Jay quoted from
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gay marriage would tarnish the sanctity of marriage!?
what about two people drunk as can be getting married in vegas? or a guy impregnating a girl and marrying her for the child's sake, not for love? or people who get married twenty times? or people who marry for money?
i never said that gay marriage is the only thing that tarnishes the sanctity of marriage. Ultimately, what really ruins it is the impulsiveness, irrational acts - be it promiscuity, patterns of divorce and remarriage, marriage for the wrong reasons, etc. - but none of these try to redefine marriage - that is the real issue at hand. That is what makes it so much worse.
yeah. but its redefining marriage by your standards. i don't think its redefining marriage in the slightest. i find no difference between the love between a man and a woman and the love between two men or two women. and thats the fair conclusion. the government should recognize that love because it promises to be fair and equal to all its citizens.
yes. our government was founded on christian ideals yet there is a promised distiction between church and state and along with it the right to free religion. not allowing gay marriage is unconstitutional. it may go along with what the bible says but oh well, the bible isn't the document setting standards and rules of which our government must follow frankly i'm very happy with that.
i hold no respect for intolerance of any kind. homophobics disgust me. i think this discussion is finishing seeing as how its useless to argue with closed-mindedness.
I just read about the history of marriage. Marriage as we know it - a sacred ceremony solidifying the union between one man andd one woman, has its roots solely in the Judeo-Christian history. Interesting if marriage was not instituted by God. Other cultures had polygamy, and the opposite of that, being one wife with many husbands, and every other "marriage" form was also man+woman.
So, from history, from God and His Word, and from our coutry's founders - it is my right to have marriage as God instituted it. One man, and one woman. Because it is eveident through history that God did indeed institute marriage, no one has the right to change its look. I want my marriage to be sacred, and a lot of other people want theirs to be sacred too - are you going to take that right away from us?
how would gay marrriage make ur marriage be less sacred. it would do anything to you or ur marriage. and homosexuals marriage is really none of your bussiness. if they can get married you still can too it does nothing to u. u get all huffy about ppl taking rights away from you. these ppl have had rights taken away from them since the begining of time. are you going to keep taking more and more from these ppl who have already suffered enough? how christian is that?
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read 1 Corinthians 7.
Marriage
1 Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. 2 But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all men were as I am. But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.
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1 Timothy 6, 10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
- jay
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"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the ( ... )
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what about two people drunk as can be getting married in vegas?
or a guy impregnating a girl and marrying her for the child's sake, not for love?
or people who get married twenty times?
or people who marry for money?
are they keeping marriage sacred?
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yes. our government was founded on christian ideals yet there is a promised distiction between church and state and along with it the right to free religion. not allowing gay marriage is unconstitutional. it may go along with what the bible says but oh well, the bible isn't the document setting standards and rules of which our government must follow frankly i'm very happy with that.
i hold no respect for intolerance of any kind. homophobics disgust me. i think this discussion is finishing seeing as how its useless to argue with closed-mindedness.
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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09693a.htm
So, from history, from God and His Word, and from our coutry's founders - it is my right to have marriage as God instituted it. One man, and one woman. Because it is eveident through history that God did indeed institute marriage, no one has the right to change its look. I want my marriage to be sacred, and a lot of other people want theirs to be sacred too - are you going to take that right away from us?
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