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Jun 28, 2010 17:04

I'm wondering about slipping stitches. Specifically, I've noted that a lot of patterns are emphatic about whether you should slip a stitch purlwise or knitwise. I assume they do so because it makes a difference in the FO, so I wonder what a knitter can assume when there are no explicit instructions. My inclination is to always slip knitwise, ( Read more... )

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anonymous June 29 2010, 02:36:34 UTC

Slipping knit-wise twists the stitch, whereas slipping purl-wise just moves the stitch across without working it, allowing it to keep the normal orientation. Generally speaking, unless it specifies otherwise, you always slip a stitch purl-wise.

As for working with longer circs with small projects... I don't think it's a BAD idea, per se... it's just that you don't need all that extra cable there getting in the way. If it doesn't bother you, though, then I don't see a problem with it. It's mostly a personal preference thing. (Unless, of course, you're working in the round -- you wouldn't want to use a 40" circ to knit a hat or something, unless you're working the magic loop or 2-circ method.)

(Sorry, mods, about the duplicate comment post -- I didn't realize I wasn't logged in before commenting.)

nimbrethil June 29 2010, 04:34:58 UTC

Thanks! On a similar subject, when you've ripped out and are putting stitches back on a needle...how crucial is it to straighten any stitches that got twisted? I try to make a point of making sure all my stitches are situated properly, but sometimes I either forget or miss a few, and I just wonder how much difference it makes in the overall FO.

erdufylla June 29 2010, 04:51:22 UTC

You can certainly do a twisted stockinette stitch -- it's a legitimate stitch pattern. (To do it, you would knit through the back loop every time, assuming the stitches are oriented correctly.) If you do it on accident, though, it might look a little odd, as your V would cross a little differently. Twisted st st is also a tighter stitch than plain st st, so if you intend to do it, you might want to go up a needle size.

There's a pretty good blog post that explains (with photos) about twisted stitches here: http://knitwhits.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/knitting-tip-2-twisted-stitches/

nimbrethil June 29 2010, 04:53:36 UTC

Yeah, I've done twisted stockinette before (although I called it plaited stitch for the longest time because the first book I found referencing it called it such). I like the effect, but I tend toward being a tight knitter, which makes knitting through the back a pain.

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erdufylla June 29 2010, 02:36:58 UTC

tersa June 29 2010, 02:55:06 UTC

Ditto. :)

nimbrethil June 29 2010, 04:44:15 UTC

I replied to the anon comment, so I won't repeat myself down here, except to say thanks! ^_^

Re: the circs, that's good to know. I use them primarily for straight knitting. I could certainly see why you wouldn't want a monster cable for knitting in the round on a small diameter project, but I couldn't figure why it'd be an issue for flat work.

carbonel June 30 2010, 15:58:06 UTC

But an SSK is slipped knitwise, because the point is to get a slant, right?

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emmacrew June 29 2010, 03:00:22 UTC

I personally dislike 16" circs, because the needle parts are shorter. If you're knitting flat and the extra cable doesn't bug you, use whatever length you want. If you're knitting in the round, you want something similar in length to the circumference of what you're knitting, or else something quite a bit longer for magic loop purposes.

And erdufylla has the right of it regarding slipping stitches. The most common place for stitches to be slipped knitwise is in making left-slanting decreases, nearly all other stitches are slipped purlwise.

neotoma June 29 2010, 03:10:17 UTC

Slipping a stitch in a direction other than specified is likely to result in twisted stitches where you didn't mean for them to be, unless you're a combination knitter who twists and untwists stitches on alternating rows.

nimbrethil June 29 2010, 04:45:09 UTC

Eh, I don't think I'm quite at the point to do combination knitting. =) Thanks!

erdufylla June 29 2010, 04:52:46 UTC

That combination knitting can get you in trouble when you're doing something other than st st, though. Or if you're knitting in the round. I usually try to break my students of the habit unless they're confident that they're counteracting the twist every time.

dichroic June 29 2010, 09:27:40 UTC

I knit combination in the round sometimes - not hard to go through the back loop even if you're purling. You just need sort of a topographical unerstanding of where your yarn is going and what it's doing instead of following instructions blindly. (So some students wouldn't get to this until they're at at advanced level, but for others it might be immediately obvious.)

uozaki June 29 2010, 04:05:22 UTC

+1 to default slipping stitches purlwise, since it doesn't change the lay of the stitch - you're just moving it from one needle to the next.

And knit with whatever needles make you happy. There is no right or wrong. The length of the cord will not change the actual product. (Unless it's in your way and making you crazy, which might throw your gauge off in a frenzy of shouting at the cable, BUT STILL.)

nimbrethil June 29 2010, 04:39:02 UTC

Thanks!

I couldn't figure out what the issue could be with having cables longer than a project needed. Sure, it's obvious you don't want a 40" cable for a 12" project if you're knitting in the round, but for knitting straight I didn't see how it could matter. I figured there must be something I was missing. I only have a few circulars, but they're all 36" or 40" and aside from a couple baby blankets I haven't knit anything that was wider than maybe 9".