you mock my pain?!

Dec 21, 2004 06:15

I seem to have found a rather compelling explanation for my recent ill health. I have been reading this book that I am rather fond of, called, "If The Buddha Dated." In this book, I came across some crucial information, the accuracy of which I further confirmed in a discussion with a Psychiatrist friend ( Read more... )

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queenofhalves December 21 2004, 16:50:01 UTC
thanks for this info. i've heard people refer to this research before but hadn't had the specific laid out for me clearly.

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aethyrflux December 30 2004, 04:03:55 UTC
d'oh!
i communicated something clearly for once?
wow, i wonder how i managed to do that?
too often, i seem to have laden my posts with information overload which clutters the essential message... i'm glad you were able to glean something useful from my efforts to make sense of these connections which i attempt to describe.
however, i'm sure that folks like motive_nuance, inhumandecency, euziere, moiety_, and nescafe would have more accurate information to share concerning this subject...

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aethyrflux December 30 2004, 04:26:58 UTC
ken wilber has made similar observations to what you mention concerning sexual strategies:
` ` He presents the idea that the difference of value spheres between males and females is primarily attributed to hormonal differences: namely, testosterone, which has the drives of "fuck it" or "kill it," and "oxytocin," which promotes feelings of attachment and nurturing. Wilber brings in the biological evolutionary significance of these hormones: testosterone for reproduction and oxytocin for mothering. ' '

and it looks like this is the secret to beating stress: ` ` (W)omen may have a built-in hormonal advantage when it comes to dealing with chronic stress. "Women are more likely to deal with stress socially by calling people up on the phone to talk to friends," Taylor said. "The propensity to seek others out, to communicate, to keep others in close proximity, none of this seems to be learned behaviour," Taylor told CTV. "We call it 'tend or defend' -- the way women turn to each other for moral support in times of stress. "And oxytocin, ( ... )

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buddhalotus December 22 2004, 02:30:47 UTC
Good luck my friend....life can be hard on all of us from time to time......HUGS......I'm glad you were here to get your hug in person.

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aethyrflux December 30 2004, 04:37:28 UTC
thanks for your sympathies.
i am glad that we are continuing to explore the many different realms in which we are able to bond.

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buddhalotus January 4 2005, 20:41:05 UTC
Sometimes there is nothing I can say or do when you are upset and you don't thik I love you....(shakes head) silly.....I do LOve you. I'm glad we are connecting through bonds as well....(:

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aethyrflux January 4 2005, 22:41:45 UTC
yes, we will both have to learn patience to manage in this current situation.
let us celebrate our love for each other in mutually beneficial ways!

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trans_simian December 22 2004, 04:35:04 UTC
I hope you get better. Hugs from me too.

Thanks for the recommend of 'If the Buddha Dataed'. I read the excerpt and really liked it. There is some good advice there about dating. Some it is stuff I have been in the process of figuring out. I liked that he sad that we would make mistakes, and have all sorts of feelings, but that the thing to do is to be present in the experience.

Hmmm. I almost never get sick myself. When I do, it is for a couple of days at most. I always figured it was that I didn't eat much sugar (except today someone brought a Giradelli chocalate basket in to work...). But it is true that I have had mostly very long term relationships.

I agree that spiritual and the material are definitely one. These material organisms called humans existing in the world, having experiences, using language to describe and imagine about those experiences...

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aethyrflux December 30 2004, 04:48:52 UTC
As my one of my first gurus told us...
"This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless!"

indeed, Master Yoda, Ram Dass, Aldous Huxley, and F. Matthias Alexander and many others all agree:

be here now!

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fulguritus December 22 2004, 08:57:26 UTC
i became really ill when things started to really suck with colin. and then got even more ill after we broke up and the guilt feelings were eating at me.
i was punishing myself for not being who he wanted me to be.
i was punishing myself by getting sick and by neglecting myself.
i need still to stop neglecting myself. i think it's a trip down a path that i'll need to warm my vehicle up for. i'm intimidated for some reason, and well, i need to get the fuck over it.
anyway, sorry, this isn't about me.
you will heal, and the yoga and meditation can only help. if you are interested in regression hypnotherapy, lemme know and i'll give you my therapist's number. it takes MONTHS to get in to see him. but he's worth it.
you are loved~

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aethyrflux December 30 2004, 04:54:35 UTC
but this is so about the infinite you in the eternal now.
i, too see many parallels between all of our paths... but all of us have to see these things for ourselves.
no one but me can look directly back into my own eyes when i gaze into a mirror.
in any case, thank you for being you, bean!

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fulguritus December 30 2004, 07:40:48 UTC
thank you for being you shanta, i'm always glad to know you.
i'm glad to have gotten the chance to know you better these past months.
we are all tripping/skipping down our own paths. but we can definitly learn from eachother.
then, of course there are the people that don't even learn from their own experiences or mistakes, but thankfully i think we aren't those people.

keep gazing with yourself. gazing leads to falling in love~

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