TvTropes Meme

[aletheiafelinea]

Look, I did a meme and it didn’t even take half a year a month! Also, I think it should be obvious you should take this title for a warning. I’m not accepting any suits for whatever much of your lives you’re gonna lose entering this. :>

Comments

[hamsterwoman]

Sure, I'll take some prompts :)

I'm with you on disliking soulmates as a trope, but for a different reason. I can enjoy stories where the protagonists meet under different circumstances (high school AUs and the like), and it's the trope itself (rather than what it forces the plot to be, although I think you're right about that) which bothers me. Because if it's a romance focused fic, then what's the point if they're soulmates? where's the tension? And if it's not romance focused, then what does it even matter?

Wholeheartedly agreed on intercontinuity crossovers (although I do also like fusions), and have similar thoughts on the reset button (including your exceptions).

[ikel89]

Joining here with a dislike for soulmate fic, and similar caveat that I don't like but for a different reason than our host here :) Closer to yours, actually -- what's the tension? And I am a bit pro-choice to just buy into "you are magically meant to be, like everyone else is magically meant to be" like dude. Who died and made you god.

[aletheiafelinea]

Ah, yes, you reminded me another reason (as I said, investigation is still on) - my dislike for determinism! Also, as far as I'm concerned, relationships - romantic or not - are developed, not discovered. We actually talked about it once with Her Hamsterness, in the very same context of soulmate trope.

This said, I think romantic tropes generally work on assumption that both parties actually are into it, which is why so many of them would be cringey in reality (surprise proposal in front of a random but applauding audience and with a hired music band, for one *shudders*). We ask "what if?", when there's no room for what ifs. Like highway traffic that looks perfectly smooth and works efficiently, as long as no one tries to go undercurrent. I suppose many people likes the trope for the very same reasons we don't. Like liking/disliking of exploding cars and non-aerodynamic-dragons.¯\_(ツ)_

[aletheiafelinea]

# Dying Curse
# breaking the fourth wall
# Even Evil Has Standards
# and apparently this is a trope, so how could I not bring it to you XD

(I'm replying both to you and Ikel together, up there.)

[ikel89]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I ended up kinda splitting my comment two ways, sorry :') But I also wanted to mention I didn't realize Three Wishes is a separate trope, but it's really cool!
So re:intercontinuity crossovers. Would MCU qualify, like a canon crossover?

[aletheiafelinea]

While I ended up kinda mixing mine to you both, so... XD

Would MCU qualify, like a canon crossover?
Huh... *stares at a wall for three hours* 'Canon crossover' itself feels somewhat oxymoronic, btw. But this aside, I'd say there's something to it. I mean, MCU being one. Guardians are very much extreme/intercontinuity next to Captain America, aren't they? Then again, CA has cosmic stuff as it's starting point, so, hm. *more staring at the wall* It certainly feels more crossover-y if one focuses just on one subseries, and becomes a single universe when watched as one, as a whole thing. And then there also comes the whole variety of genres - space opera, war movie, political thriller, heist movie, teen movie... And in comics there's also variety of styles (MCU has it too, to some degree, but of course live action has less possibilities to it than drawings - mostly just playing with color palette or music).

[moth2fic]

I'm happy enough with soulmates if the plot is good. The rest of the tropes, too, though I'm not at all keen on reset - even the ones you mention as exceptions! I'd quite like a meme prompt, please!

[aletheiafelinea]

I'm happy enough with soulmates if the plot is good.
Heh, "everything depends on realization" is probably my most often used caveat...

Tropes for you!
# Mathematician's Answer
# mixing genres
Species Lost and Found
Dying Declaration of Love

[moth2fic]

Eek! Thank you - I think!! Watch this space, or rather, watch my own journal!

[aletheiafelinea]

Will do!

[beccadg]

Geez, tough crowd for soulmates. I love them! Love! Love!! Love them!!! I could systematically respond to every objection to them in this thread, but I'm old enough to just let it all pass in that "to each their own," "different strokes for different folks," etc way. I'll take some TV tropes over here, please?

[aletheiafelinea]

3:2 so far! One more person in favor of soulmate trope and we'll have the perfect balance. :) *looks around* Anyone?

"to each their own," "different strokes for different folks," etc way.
Yep, same here. I'd wish people lived by this philosophy more often...

Tropes for you!
# Acceptable Breaks from Reality
# Mood Whiplash
# time travel
# Deadpan Snarker

[beccadg]

Thanks! I won't get my responses up tonight, but watch my journal!!

[aletheiafelinea]

Will do! And no worries, no need to hurry! :)

[alumfelga]

A caveat though: fusions aren’t my thing.
Czytam sobie, czym są fiki "fusion" i chyba jeszcze takiego nie czytałam. Wiem, że są, ale jakoś mnie do nich nie ciągnie.

Mój problem z "reset button" jest taki, że uważam, że historia, która jest nam opowiadana powinna coś zmieniać, a jeśli wszystko wraca do pierwotnego kształtu, to czy faktycznie nastąpi jakaś zmiana w bohaterach? Pewnie w niektórych przypadkach tak, ale najczęściej to wracanie do statusu quo ma chyba jednak umożliwić powstanie dalszych sezonów/sequeli i wtedy mnie bardzo irytuje.

romance-inducing smudge
A więc tak to się nazywa! Widzę, że jesteś na to bardziej odporna niż ja :)

Gimme some tropes, a co! (:

[aletheiafelinea]

Czytam sobie, czym są fiki "fusion" i chyba jeszcze takiego nie czytałam. Wiem, że są, ale jakoś mnie do nich nie ciągnie.
One chyba w ogóle są dość rzadkie. Czytałam może z jeden albo dwa, widziałam z dziesięć przez lata...

jeśli wszystko wraca do pierwotnego kształtu, to czy faktycznie nastąpi jakaś zmiana w bohaterach? Pewnie w niektórych przypadkach tak, ale najczęściej to wracanie do statusu quo ma chyba jednak umożliwić powstanie dalszych sezonów/sequeli i wtedy mnie bardzo irytuje.
Właśnie. Dlatego lepiej działają te, które miały ten nawrót wbudowany od początku, jako rdzeń pomysłu - na przykład w dniach świstaka postacie zwykle przechodzą cały wachlarz emocji w miarę jak zmieniają się ich reakcje na kolejne pętle - dezorientacja, potem próbują jakoś wykorzystać swoją sytuację, potem kolejne próby uwolnienia, narastająca desperacja, co się zaczęło komediowo jedzie w depresyjny mrok itede. Fabuła jako całość nie kończy w tym samym miejscu. Inaczej natomiast z resetem, po którym widać, że został dopisany jako fabularna proteza,