Regarding the Steve thing, I think there's two ways of looking at it, depending on how you understand the time travel in this movie (which I'm not sure I did xD
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depending on how you understand the time travel in this movie (which I'm not sure I did xD) Yeah, about that. When the rewindable version will be available, I'll need to rewind that piece with them talking about one's past future being their future past, or what was it... I mean, it actually sounded interesting. Just too fast, like 10x, at least. Regardless of language. XD
I thought Loki and everything in 2012 was supposed to be fixed by returning the Stones, actually. My head... @_@
one where Nebula and all of Thanos' army + him die in 2014 Wasn't it 2023, that is the "now"?
so Steve was Peggy's husband all along. We never see him And he never realized he was seeing his own kids' photos, and that she cried seeing him young again, and not because of seeing him at all. And the future him made sure to keep away at every his visit. Okay, that would work. I'm buying it, because I felt it would be unfair to those hypothetical versions 1.0 otherwise.
because Steve still looks pretty fit for, what, 115? More like 105, I think.
I'll need my own Tilda Swinton to explain the movie to me tbh XD Including glowing timeline graphics made from mystical energy xD
From what I thought she said, basically there are bound to be different timelines, but not ripping the stones as super powerful items out of their reality, they remain somewhat stable (so it's more like we now have a confirmed multiverse). When Strange used the time stone on the apple, we saw reality fracture in a similar way.
I thought Loki and everything in 2012 was supposed to be fixed by returning the Stones, actually. My head... @_@
Well, they didn't steal his Tesseract, they went back and took the one from the 70s, and returned it, so he could still steal it in that timeline. Unless Cap went back and fixed ALL mistakes (i.e. keep his previous time travel self from encountering his 2012!self, keep Loki from disappearing etc.), no, that specific Loki is still AWOL.
Wasn't it 2023, that is the "now"?Yeah, but it was his 2014!self fighting in 2023 is what I mean xD So at least this timeline has
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I'll need my own Tilda Swinton to explain the movie to me tbh XD Including glowing timeline graphics made from mystical energy xD Exactly. XD
Unless Cap went back and fixed ALL mistakes (i.e. keep his previous time travel self from encountering his 2012!self, keep Loki from disappearing etc.) I'm pretty sure he'd just keep multiplying the mess if he tried, anyway. :') And adding us headache...
I'm pretty sure the series will be set post Endgame with probably Fury sending them on missions to deal with the world's chaos post two snaps? Which by the way would conveniently explain why it's Falcon & Winter Soldier with no Steve in sight. That is, as a plausible in-universe excuse besides the obvious "Because Mackie & Stan". XD
I think it would be more on the "I want to go but I'm not sure anyone wants me there tbh since I was one of the main reasons for the falling out between Tony and Steve in the first place" and then Sam and Steve had to drag him out to be like, no, it's fine. Yup, this, too.
As you saw in my post, I agree with pretty much all of the things you didn't like, as well as your top moments (plus Wanda and Thanos square-off -- who would've thought, as Wanda was pretty much a non-entity for me in the previous two movies).
Speaking of which, hey, Clint very explicitly did NOT sacrifice Natasha, and yet he gets the Stone?
That's an excellent point. I saw a video somewhere which made the point that actually Natasha got the stone, through self-sacrifice, and Clint just... picked it up and carried it out. Which makes a bit more sense, but I dunno if that's consistent with how the stone is supposed to work.
Speaking of which, him taking the hammer wasn’t as much a surprise as the shield breaking. :(
I found the broken shield a much more arresting image than Cap with the hammer, but everybody seems to love the Mjolnir part...
(plus Wanda and Thanos square-off -- who would've thought, as Wanda was pretty much a non-entity for me in the previous two movies) Yup. I saw you mentioned her and nodded, too, but just to myself. I already had to split that comment, sooo... :')
I saw a video somewhere which made the point that actually Natasha got the stone, through self-sacrifice, and Clint just... picked it up and carried it out. Which makes a bit more sense, but I dunno if that's consistent with how the stone is supposed to work. Doesn't and isn't, because I very much doubt herself is what she loves. :> She's in the Former Soviet Assassins Self-Loathing Club. If anything, I totally feel we're entitled to reparations here, on the legal ground of improperly carried off procedure of the stone obtainment! Meaning, her coming back.
That's a good point about Clint not really sacrificing Natasha! I was super sad that she died, I wasn't expecting it... And the timelines things are VERY confusing.
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Yeah, about that. When the rewindable version will be available, I'll need to rewind that piece with them talking about one's past future being their future past, or what was it... I mean, it actually sounded interesting. Just too fast, like 10x, at least. Regardless of language. XD
I thought Loki and everything in 2012 was supposed to be fixed by returning the Stones, actually. My head... @_@
one where Nebula and all of Thanos' army + him die in 2014
Wasn't it 2023, that is the "now"?
so Steve was Peggy's husband all along. We never see him
And he never realized he was seeing his own kids' photos, and that she cried seeing him young again, and not because of seeing him at all. And the future him made sure to keep away at every his visit. Okay, that would work. I'm buying it, because I felt it would be unfair to those hypothetical versions 1.0 otherwise.
because Steve still looks pretty fit for, what, 115?
More like 105, I think.
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From what I thought she said, basically there are bound to be different timelines, but not ripping the stones as super powerful items out of their reality, they remain somewhat stable (so it's more like we now have a confirmed multiverse). When Strange used the time stone on the apple, we saw reality fracture in a similar way.
I thought Loki and everything in 2012 was supposed to be fixed by returning the Stones, actually. My head... @_@
Well, they didn't steal his Tesseract, they went back and took the one from the 70s, and returned it, so he could still steal it in that timeline. Unless Cap went back and fixed ALL mistakes (i.e. keep his previous time travel self from encountering his 2012!self, keep Loki from disappearing etc.), no, that specific Loki is still AWOL.
Wasn't it 2023, that is the "now"?Yeah, but it was his 2014!self fighting in 2023 is what I mean xD So at least this timeline has ( ... )
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Exactly. XD
Unless Cap went back and fixed ALL mistakes (i.e. keep his previous time travel self from encountering his 2012!self, keep Loki from disappearing etc.)
I'm pretty sure he'd just keep multiplying the mess if he tried, anyway. :') And adding us headache...
I'm pretty sure the series will be set post Endgame with probably Fury sending them on missions to deal with the world's chaos post two snaps?
Which by the way would conveniently explain why it's Falcon & Winter Soldier with no Steve in sight. That is, as a plausible in-universe excuse besides the obvious "Because Mackie & Stan". XD
I think it would be more on the "I want to go but I'm not sure anyone wants me there tbh since I was one of the main reasons for the falling out between Tony and Steve in the first place" and then Sam and Steve had to drag him out to be like, no, it's fine.
Yup, this, too.
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Speaking of which, hey, Clint very explicitly did NOT sacrifice Natasha, and yet he gets the Stone?
That's an excellent point. I saw a video somewhere which made the point that actually Natasha got the stone, through self-sacrifice, and Clint just... picked it up and carried it out. Which makes a bit more sense, but I dunno if that's consistent with how the stone is supposed to work.
Speaking of which, him taking the hammer wasn’t as much a surprise as the shield breaking. :(
I found the broken shield a much more arresting image than Cap with the hammer, but everybody seems to love the Mjolnir part...
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Yup. I saw you mentioned her and nodded, too, but just to myself. I already had to split that comment, sooo... :')
I saw a video somewhere which made the point that actually Natasha got the stone, through self-sacrifice, and Clint just... picked it up and carried it out. Which makes a bit more sense, but I dunno if that's consistent with how the stone is supposed to work.
Doesn't and isn't, because I very much doubt herself is what she loves. :> She's in the Former Soviet Assassins Self-Loathing Club. If anything, I totally feel we're entitled to reparations here, on the legal ground of improperly carried off procedure of the stone obtainment! Meaning, her coming back.
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