The KJV and unsaved non-English-speaking tribes...

Jun 25, 2001 15:27

I have been asked repeatedly why the Lord in His infinite unbridled wisdom chose to make the 1611 edition of the King James version of the Holy Bible the one true official Bible and the final authority in all matters of faith and doctrine for the entire planet when there are several million people around the world who do not speak English and I ( Read more... )

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So wait... aziraphale June 25 2001, 15:48:16 UTC
I can't regard any Bible as the be-all and end-all of religious documentation.

In the case of the New Testament, for instance, you're reading the words of someone who lived two-thousand years ago, recorded secondhand by people who weren't there in the first place, then translated first to Greek and THEN to English. I think there's a slight chance that some of the message might have gotten fudged a bit over time. Come to think of it, there's so much potential for absolute breadown there that Nietzsche's probably having a fit right now.

And that doesn't even touch the baffling amount of breakdown potentially suffered by the Old Testament, authored a good damn long time prior to the New Testament!

People who regard the Bible as the final authority on anything amuse me.

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Re: So wait... hermitx June 25 2001, 22:53:09 UTC
the argument a 'true believer' would probably use is that if god really wanted the word to translate properly, he would just 'make it so.' or as in (mormonism founder) joseph smith's case, send some angels to show you where the golden tablets are buried, and a cheat sheet to translate them with.

the beauty is that faith requires no proof. proof is actually a hindrance to faith. the christians don't need to prove miracles. an omnipotent god can do anything. it's the ultimate trump card.

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Re: So wait... ladyfirebird June 26 2001, 06:18:53 UTC
Not all faith requires no proof.

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Re: So wait... aziraphale June 26 2001, 08:44:47 UTC
It's not about proof vs. faith; it's more about how much the odds stack up against what you want to believe in. Saying that the Bible probably didn't translate perfectly during any one of its hundred of incarnations doesn't say that the information contained in it is not true or accurate. All it says is that you've gotta suspend disbelief pretty hardcore to buy into the whole thing.

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sassybeast June 25 2001, 16:09:37 UTC
If you're attempting to convert people, don't you think it would be better to have at least a more positive outlook instead of assuming that everyone will disagree? Or do you just know that those who read this aren't narrowminded enough to want to convert right from the get go. I know if I were trying to make people believe something, I would be a little more optomistic instead of getting my jollies off by telling people they're going to hell and I'm not.

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Dude..... edgenchristian June 25 2001, 16:14:42 UTC
You, like, totally remind me of Jake "The Snake" Roberts.

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Re: Dude..... changotosis June 25 2001, 17:18:21 UTC
plus he needs a stone cold ass whoopin...and that's the bottom line.

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oliveoyl June 25 2001, 16:34:55 UTC
Swaggart Jr., your journal is the most disturbing thing I've ever read. I live in a very religious community, yet I've never witnessed your fanatic intolerance. I could give you several reasons for why I hope your entire set of beliefs is a big joke, but, well, I guess you (seeing as how you're in good with the big guy) would probably condemn me to hell. Still, I hope you take the time to examine other views and realize that nothing is as simple as it appears.

Also, I haven't had too much use for the Bible in my daily life, seeing as how I am one of those disgusting pro-choice feminist masturbators, but I always liked this little tidbit: Judge not, lest ye be judged. I think it's pertinent here...

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ex_nosebleed337 June 26 2001, 10:47:26 UTC
amen, oliveoyl!

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changotosis June 25 2001, 17:15:59 UTC
god has an attitude not unlike that of a rejected teen w/ pent-up physical frustrations and schizophrenic/social deviant behavior. i hope heaven has manacles and rubber rooms for the nutjob.

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