i am glad i did what i did.

[anacubana]

http://www.themessengersofhope.com/moh/moviemail/view?buzzmailId=93539&id=93539

Comments

[joy2thefishes]

Kerry does NOT support partial birth abortions. Please learn all the facts before you spread articles like this. He DOES support abortion, but that web site discusses partial birth, which he DOES NOT support.

[anacubana]

Joy, unfortunately, his actions do support it. He says that he does not, but he voted against the ban. To me, what you do does a lot more than what you say.

[joy2thefishes]

Partial-birth abortion ban undermine women's right to choose

[anacubana]

1. Bush's ban actually does make exceptions for the life of the mother. It is said by the media that it is "never" allowed, but this is not actually true if you read the ban itself. It isn't allowed except in cases where the life of the mother is at risk.

2. A woman's right to choose is not a constitutioanl amendment.

3. "The new bill contains extensive congressional findings, based on years of congressional staff investigations and hearings, that partial-birth abortion is unnecessary to preserve "health," and indeed poses intrinsic risks even over and above other abortion methods."

[balachthon]

Certainly, what you do DOES a lot more than what you say. The question is, does it SAY a lot more than what you say? What you do, that is. Say more than what you say.

;-)

[anacubana]

thanks, clint. i can always count on you for clarification in a smart ass way when serious issues are being discusses. ;-)

Difficult Moral Dilemma

[anonymous]

This recent study published in The Lancet finds that approximately 100,000 Iraqi deaths were caused by our invasion. It certainly was not a black & white choice. I pray that Bush’s plan to develop a new line of offensive nuclear weapons along with his doctrine of “preventative war” doesn’t kill hundreds of thousands more.

"Mortality before and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: cluster sample survey" by Les Roberts, Riyadh Lafta, Richard Garfield, Jamal Khudhairi, Gilbert Burnham in www.thelancet.com

Re: Difficult Moral Dilemma

[anacubana]

Yes, this is a difficult moral dilemma. I struggled long and hard about whether I could actually vote for Bush. I knew I couldn't vote for Kerry, but could I vote for Bush? Here's the deal, why I did, though. Unless you're a pacifist (which, although I frequently flirt with it, I am not), you believe that war can be morally justified sometimes. Regardless of whether or not you believe that we should be in this war, war is not intrinsically evil because it can sometimes be justified. That might mean that Bush made the wrong decision, but that does not mean that he is supporting something that is always evil. Abortion, on the other hand, is. It cannot ever be morally justified. I cannot justify voting for a man who supports it, ever. If you are pacifist, you cannot justify voting for either candidate just based on that issue alone (Kerry voted for the war and, although he might not have had the same info as Bush, he was supporting something that, as a pacifist, you believe is always a moral evil). Then you're really stuck and

Re: Difficult Moral Dilemma

[anonymous]

I respect your decision to vote for Bush based on his opposition to abortion. I think that there are a lot of people in your shoes. The problem is that both the World at large and President’s inner circle interprets their decisive victory as an endorsement of our foreign and domestic policies. I would love to see a large segment of those who voted for Bush on the abortion issue come out vocally and publicly against the current policy for preventative war, the current policy for the development of new usable nuclear weapons, our policy of shifting tax and health care costs from businesses to employees, our policy of keeping minimum wages low etc. etc.

Re: Difficult Moral Dilemma

[anacubana]

Yeah, I do think that's a problem. There's definitely plenty of people who are vocal about that here at ND, but at a national level, I agree. It the world needs to know that just because we voted for Bush we don't support everything else he does. I think that the problem is that the media does not want to put something like that out there- it is much easier to keep the pro-life people in the inconsistent conservative box then to acknowledge that there are people pro-life across the board.

[pottstonya]

Hey there,
I am so impressed with the site you sent and admire you for standing for what you believe in. I might add you are such a talented writer. Follow your passion and have no regrets. Tonya

[anacubana]

Thanks! Most of that writing was from the actual partial-birth abortion ban, not from me, but thanks.

[pottstonya]

I WAS REFERRING TO THE PARTS YOU WROTE: ) I'VE COME ACROSS SOME OF YOUR OTHER POST AND I CAN TELL YOU ARE VERY BRIGHT AND GIFTED AND A PASSIONATE WRITER. KUDOS TO YOU.

[anacubana]

Thanks!! Hope all is well with you!