gross, real life, philosophy

Mar 29, 2011 16:24

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alienfromvenus March 30 2011, 00:02:59 UTC
Very interesting, although unless you are training in a martial art I find it hard to believe you were involved in actual physical combat.

I've just had an experience involving a recurring (over the past 1.25 years) periodontal abscess, perhaps due to a faulty adjacent root canal, culminating in a tooth extraction (#14) that occurred almost exactly one week ago. Not quite as extreme as your experience, but I can sort of relate. I will check out that article.

P.S. Umm.. er... I could not post under my usual name.. :(

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anosognosia March 30 2011, 00:20:26 UTC
Sorry to hear about your tooth.

I've heard that there's some kind of use contract for this service that prohibits your solution to the second problem.

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triphicus March 30 2011, 00:48:27 UTC
I recall my impression when you first told me the story about the drains, how it did strike me as something that would be a pleasant experience, sort of like how it feels to clean out my ear with a Q-Tip, only much much better :)

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anosognosia March 30 2011, 01:28:46 UTC
Yes, I am glad I have two little dimples on my belly to remind me of the experience. I think from now on I am going to pretend that the drains were cute snakes that live in my belly and are just hibernating now. At least until I get a dog.

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triphicus March 30 2011, 01:40:12 UTC
I was just remarking the other day (in response to St. Thomas' incessant preoccupation with demonstrating that the Spirit really WAS a real live dove at Jesus' baptism) how much easier it would probably be to live for the Spirit if he-she were a real dove living inside my belly. I would be all about keeping my Spirit dove friend fed and happy every day :)

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anosognosia March 30 2011, 01:44:50 UTC
The Spirit was a real live dove hibernating in someone's belly--Jesus'. After all, the Spirit does proceed through the Son, right? And that's why Jesus had to die, so the Spirit could crawl out of his belly and fly around. They didn't have as good surgical technique in those days, so that was the only option really. But ever since Jesus died, the Spirit's been flying all over the place, no longer hibernating in a belly.

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essius March 30 2011, 06:34:40 UTC
Since you mentioned James, it seems to me that these various experiences come together in one great big "blooming, buzzing confusion." Peirce, who came up with phenomenology (which he also called phaneroscopy) independently of but unfortunately a year short of Husserl, used the term "Firstness" to describe this mess. One can of course logically presciss certain elements from this total experience (though we should be careful not to think such a prescission falls short of being an experience itself), but that's not how they are "first" apprehended.

But of course the philosopher that springs to mind from reading all these descriptions of interrelated pain and pleasure is Plato, not Peirce.

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asylum_at_sea March 30 2011, 22:06:48 UTC
Jesus, dude, what have you been through?

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