"Ты вот уже несколько раз пытался перевести разговор на gay baiting, и обвинить меня в гомофобии."
вы неправильно используете этот термин. кажется вы имеете в виду gay bashing - совсем не gay baiting. последнее - это когда мужчина стрэйт намеренно притворяется гэем чтобы "поймать" и потом унизить, или просто заставить выйти из клозета гэя..
i see. neither gay-baiting nor gay-bashing would be correct here.
there is no such single word (yet!) to describe "хороший способ победить меня в споре, - это обвинить меня в гомофобии".
it would be nice to have a term for that, since this is a common PC thing - to accuse (directly or subtly) someone of mysogynism, racism, homophobia, when the conversation is about something entirely different. at least, he "accused" you very subtly.
BTW i can't help but find it ironic that you banned user bbb for being uppity and condescending. you (or your LJ persona) is never uppity but condescending you are, quite a bit. i know you like proofs and direct quotes, and not empty accusations - i have no time or desire to go reading through old posts looking for examples, but i promise to point one out to you if i see it in the future posts or conversations.
of course you can argue that coming from the a host of a blog, superior attitude is one thing, and from a guest, a completely different one.
Personally, I am less concerned about terminology.
I don't like when personal attacks are substituted for an argument. I like it even less when those attacks are pure libel. And, if it is directed at me personally, - well, that I choose not to accept.
As for condescending, then sure thing, I can be condescending as hell. And, on occasion, I can even call someone an idiot or a fascist. I am also known to tell some people to go and fuck themselves. In other words, yes, sometimes I offend people.
If I do not want to offend someone, I try to remedy the situation.
And, conversely, if I do not try to fix things, it means that in the best case, I do not give a shit if I offended that person. In the worst, I wanted to.
вы неправильно используете этот термин. кажется вы имеете в виду gay bashing - совсем не gay baiting. последнее - это когда мужчина стрэйт намеренно притворяется гэем чтобы "поймать" и потом унизить, или просто заставить выйти из клозета гэя..
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Я имел в виду, - он решил, что хороший способ победить меня в споре, - это обвинить меня в гомофобии.
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there is no such single word (yet!) to describe "хороший способ победить меня в споре, - это обвинить меня в гомофобии".
it would be nice to have a term for that, since this is a common PC thing - to accuse (directly or subtly) someone of mysogynism, racism, homophobia, when the conversation is about something entirely different. at least, he "accused" you very subtly.
BTW i can't help but find it ironic that you banned user bbb for being uppity and condescending. you (or your LJ persona) is never uppity but condescending you are, quite a bit. i know you like proofs and direct quotes, and not empty accusations - i have no time or desire to go reading through old posts looking for examples, but i promise to point one out to you if i see it in the future posts or conversations.
of course you can argue that coming from the a host of a blog, superior attitude is one thing, and from a guest, a completely different one.
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I don't like when personal attacks are substituted for an argument. I like it even less when those attacks are pure libel. And, if it is directed at me personally, - well, that I choose not to accept.
As for condescending, then sure thing, I can be condescending as hell. And, on occasion, I can even call someone an idiot or a fascist. I am also known to tell some people to go and fuck themselves. In other words, yes, sometimes I offend people.
If I do not want to offend someone, I try to remedy the situation.
And, conversely, if I do not try to fix things, it means that in the best case, I do not give a shit if I offended that person. In the worst, I wanted to.
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