I saw LOTR: Something About A King today. I figured...what the Hell, it can't possibly be more boring than an afternoon of watching soaps with my mother (on full blast volume) while she snores in her cocktail
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You deny cinematic greatness?!?thafuzzDecember 29 2003, 19:39:25 UTC
If you weren't so adorable, and if I didn't know that this would make a great monologue in a one-man show - I'd really be miffed with you right now. ;)
It amazing how the year-long-journey that these characters in LOTR take doesn’t actually CHANGE a single one of them. In each of the three films, the characters always say the same stuff and had the same exact facial expressionsThis is true and a criticism I had about the piece as well, however when I went back for a re-read of Tolkien I realized how little character development is even -in- the LOTR series. Tolkien was a folkloricist who was heavily influenced by Celtic and Arthurian mythology - so his work read kinda like a medieval epic rather than fiction as we tend to know it now (with characters and personal development etc..). But yeah, the characters in Tolkien were sketchy at best and while the LOTR series did flesh them out somewhat, they're still not what I'd call 3 dimensional by any stretch of the imagination
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I appreciate it, I know why it's good cinema, even without reading the books. but THE BEST PICTURE IN THE HISTORY OF ALL MOVIES EVER? Nah. I think it's good that people are psyched about these movies (I think it's good that anyone gets psyched about anything these days), but I think the fans blow the experience out of proportion.
The Oscars help us keep perspective in a weird way - these movies get some serious attention at nomination time because they're good, but they don't win the serious awards because at the end of the day, they're action/fantasy movies where the drama is only very good, not great.
*nod* I've always maintained that the characters in LotR exist solely so that there's someone around for the plot to happen to. Unlike much modern fiction, where the plot exists to give the characters something to do.
Advice from a LOTR fan...soul_spiderDecember 29 2003, 21:17:50 UTC
"I’ll usually just say my peace, which is typically just a single sentence: "I think they’re boring but I understand why everyone likes them.
Suddenly, I’ve brutally attacked the person somehow and they are feeling threatened and challenged and are visibly distraught..."
Seems like a pretty common reaction to me when you criticize something that people love. Ya know? I once had a long talk with a friend who hated the fact that he would be the target of dismissive and mocking comments because he was a fan of [popular female music star] and some people found it "hip" or "cool" to bust on her in front of him. Seems to me that you could replace [popular female music star] with [popular movie trilogy] here.
We all deal with people in different ways, I know. Of course you should be able to speak any honest opinion to your friends without fear of too much retribution, but when dealing with strangers/acquaintances, I try to avoid making unnecessarily confrontational or negative comments. Why rain on other people's parade? I'm not
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Re: Advice from a LOTR fan...backawayslowlyDecember 30 2003, 00:08:13 UTC
But it's funny to think that you don't understand how a comment like, "I think they’re boring but I understand why everyone likes them" sounds dismissive and condescending and really rude in the face of someone who expresses their love of these movies. Of course I understand. I'm inviting it becuase I know that 999 out of 1000 people are going to have a cow. It was the same thing when Matrix II came out and everyone wasn't thinking clearly. Ask those people about how much they like the Matrix movies NOW that the 10 minutes of the Matrix is offically up. LOL
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DOCTOR: Was he doing anything stressful or engaging in any physical activity?
NURSE: No, he was just reading someone's LiveJournal entry.
DOCTOR: backawayslowly's ROTK review?
NURSE: My god, Doctor..YES!
DOCTOR: That explains it. He's a LOTR fan.
NURSE: I'll get him a sedative.
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The Oscars help us keep perspective in a weird way - these movies get some serious attention at nomination time because they're good, but they don't win the serious awards because at the end of the day, they're action/fantasy movies where the drama is only very good, not great.
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Suddenly, I’ve brutally attacked the person somehow and they are feeling threatened and challenged and are visibly distraught..."
Seems like a pretty common reaction to me when you criticize something that people love. Ya know? I once had a long talk with a friend who hated the fact that he would be the target of dismissive and mocking comments because he was a fan of [popular female music star] and some people found it "hip" or "cool" to bust on her in front of him. Seems to me that you could replace [popular female music star] with [popular movie trilogy] here.
We all deal with people in different ways, I know. Of course you should be able to speak any honest opinion to your friends without fear of too much retribution, but when dealing with strangers/acquaintances, I try to avoid making unnecessarily confrontational or negative comments. Why rain on other people's parade? I'm not ( ... )
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I really ought use that line more myself. I might even keep the "3." in it, just for good luck!
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