It's soapbox time..

[bamaramababe04]

I decided that I wanted to write a response to Adam's last journal post (before the one talking about Andrea and his job) where he said "i'm sick of seeing people that are trying to become activists and "fight for what they believe in" when they have not experienced life and things that should make them want to fight

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[pennylessfool]

That was damn good.

[bamaramababe04]

Merci beaucoup

[emily_dickinson]

these people happened to get pregnant, don't you think that would have helped them form an opinion about abortion?
Wow....there is soooooo much I could say on that topic, and I really do know what I am talking about....but I'd rather not start a war. I do want to say, though, that of all women raped, 1% of them have become pregnant. This is due to the fact that during the incident, the body goes into shock, therfore rejecting any "intrusions." So very, very few girls would have that particular life experience.

[bamaramababe04]

Regardless of that fact, the point I'm trying to make is that some young women have been through this experience or had a teenage pregnancy due to faults of thier own. But being in that situation would still give you a stance on abortion. If you were to get pregnant and had ultimatly decided to keep the baby (due to personal/spirtitual beliefs...whatever) that may make up your mind about being pro-life. Perhaps you kept the baby but were glad that there was an other option out there or you went through with the abortion. These situations and circumstances still give you an opinion on the subject. Which is what I was trying to convey.

Through these examples I didn't want to spark debate on the moral/political issues of anything I mentioned. I was simply using these things to get the point across that things DO happen to you during your youth that would influence you to want to fight for certain causes.

[pennylessfool]

If you don't know what you are talking about then don't say anything at all.

You have never been in that kind of situation so you don't know how you'd feel at that moment about any of the options.

[emily_dickinson]

I do know what I am talking about. I do know exactly how I feel about these options. Maybe I have not been in the situation myself, but I know of several people who have, and some of these people have been very close to me. I have also done a LOT of resaerch on that type of thing, several times. So don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about, Blake Mundy, because I do. Otherwise, I would have taken that advice and remained silent. Just because you think you know everything doesn't mean everyone else knows nothing. You are not the only intelligent, experienced, or cognitively capable person to walk the earth.

[fallndreams]

Judgement is what makes something go downhill

[nicole_la_bella]

Kris, I don't know this guy Adam, so I don't know exactly what he posted or what connotation he was going after. You made some valid points in your argument, but maybe he was just upset with people who are too ignorant to realize that we as a nation have it amazingly well and don't realize exactly what other people who don't live in the "land of the free" have to go through. I know it really aggrevates me when people assume certain things about rights that we take for granted. Then again, maybe he's a close-minded pous who doesn't know what he's talking about. I just read your post, which moved me, and felt I had to get something out.

OK

[dark_pyper]

my complaint wasn't against people who have been beaten or raped or poor all there life and feel strongly about these specific subjects and have strong arguments about them. i have my own opinions about things of that sort, my complaint was against people who seek out these arguments and don't fully understand them. there are many, more than not, people on this campus that are here on "daddy's expense" i know this because they have said so on more than one occasion. it is also these people that i don't appreciate TRYING to become activists and politicians. they seek out a fight that needs to be fought, this is fine. however because they feel the need to have the fight, often the fight they end up picking is not really there. i know a few girls that have been assaulted in the manner that you describe, and it pains me to see the way its effected them. i also know a couple of people that are gay and many that are poor, i don't envy their lives because it is a very difficult path to tread. however i feel that unless you have gone

Re: OK

[dark_pyper]

here is something that brody said about my post, it is basically what i was trying to say, but brody is just a lot better with words than i am.

"Great politicians start out thinking only of politics. Great leaders, on the other hand, have lived and bring life to those under their care. Sadly, the world has too many politicians"

Re: OK

[bamaramababe04]

And the point of my entry was to try and show you that the ones that are fighting...9 times out of 10 do have something to be fighting for. Just because your parents are paying for college doesn't mean that bad things or things that make you want to become an activist for haven't happened in your lifetime.

Anyhow, as long as no fights were started due to this entry then awesome. I was just stating my response and opinion and so were you. Yay for LJ. No hard feelings.

Re: OK

[dark_pyper]

whatever you say, i still feel that there are far too many people looking for a political cause to fight for, these people often don't understand what they are fighting about or for, at least that is how i see the situation. also this is not true in all cases, there are some people that have been forced to deal with some tuff shit early in their lives, and i do understand that, but i think the numbers are more of a 50-50 kind of thing. and for those 50 that have a reason for fighting good, my post was against the other 50 that go out looking for the fight. maybe we just have different ideas as far as this subject is concerned and the best thing to say is nothing at all. so goodbye.