Nominated but almost bloody missed it

[bearfacedcheek]

Well thank heavens for cordykitten who kindly let me know that I'd been nominated over at harem of spike awards but needed to accept the nomination. Damn work email putting these crucial messages in the spam box!

So off i popped to get me a pretty button...

Comments

[slaymesoftly]

They have to breathe - otherwise, no talky, no smokey, no...whatever. Joss was a twit - and he never mentioned that "no breath" thing again that I can recall. Probably because someone pointed out to him that air has to be moving in and out in order for sound to be made. I suppose the argument could be made that something that doesn't need to breathe to live, wouldn't run out of breath, but if he was trying to speak and say, someone had just buried their fist in his diaphragm, I think he would wheeze just the way a human would. (And broody old Angel sighs alot - also air moving in and out. :)

Congrats, BTW! I've never heard of that site *runs off to look it up*

[bearfacedcheek]

Sometimes when we fanish types start chatting about things in cannon i think there is a danger that we forget that the writers (even Joss) are only human. They would write one thing in season one and have forgotten about it by season 4.

Like that Spike's sire question we can read any number of interpretations into the discontinuity any and all of which might be right. But we should also accept that it might just be a good old fashioned cock up.

[slaymesoftly]

just be a good old fashioned cock up.

Hee! As it probably was. Seven seasons of a show with writers coming and going leaves a lot of room for discontinuity - not to mention, who's going to care what you say or do with a character that was meant to be gone by mid-season II? Who knew he would turn out to be the hero at the end of the series and that it might be important what kind of words you put in his mouth at the beginning of season II?

[zanthinegirl]

You know, that whole "I have no breath" thing has always bugged me! Ambient air (what's floating around in the atmosphere) is 21% oxygen. Air exhaled from a living person (for example when doing mouth-to-mouth resuscitation) is about half that; maybe 10%. Angel obviously breaths-- he can talk, and the air has to come from somewhere-- so why can't he do the CPR? Since he doesn't use up the O2 he's a substantially better choice than Xander! Wuss!

I know joss-verse vampires get out of breath, pant, etc. I don't know why they couldn't wheeze!

[bearfacedcheek]

yeah i thought that, vamps should be the perfect candidates for administering CPR also becuase they wouldn't get tired so they could keep you going for as long as it took for help to arive.

as i said to patti, i reckon the writers just thought it sounded good at the time and never gave it another thought after that. It's just us obseo-fans that drag it back up LOL

[spikereader]

I agree with everyone else on Spike's ability to breathe, wheeze, pant, smoke, talk, all of which involve inhalation and exhalation of some sort. Angel just didn't want to get his trousers wet by kneeling in that water.

Congratulations on your nomination :)

[bearfacedcheek]

hehe i suppose soggy knees would detract from teh dark brooding hero image.

[cordykitten]

Good you were in time :)
And Grrrr.. what I wrote before is gone because I managed to close several windows at once. *sigh*
As I read in some fanfics too and this seems logic to me:
Speaking and smoking needs breathing. And if Angel had wanted he could have performed CPR. Because he's not exhaling carbon dioxide, he would be exhaling the air as he did breath it before (with oxygen).

[bearfacedcheek]

at least i think i got there in time i replied to the email and left a comment at the site so fingers crossed. I'm gonna count it as a nomination anyway 'cos some nice person took the bother to nominate :)

thanks again for the heads up