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[birdwatcher]

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[dr_tambowsky]

Cato is very good at producing nice, thought stimulating, or at the very least very funny cartoons. Unfortunately, as a thumb rule their data are routinely doctored and/or misrepresented and can not and should not be trusted.

[keturah]

Me neither, but I do hate the FDA for banning the sale of clove cigarettes while menthols (the one that kids really like) are still available . . .

[dr_tambowsky]

Cloves were banned on the (correct) pretense that they are considerably worse than regular cigs. Having said that, I still do not quite see why they should be banned and, most importantly, what's the FDA's business in regulating cigs in the first place.

[keturah]

Nope, kreteks distributed in the U.S. are NOT more harmful than regular or mentholated cigarettes.
And please see: legalize_kretek, especially this entry. On that, we can agree.

[dr_tambowsky]

Не верю! (c). 14-days toxicity study is outrageously ridiculous and hardly applicable to anything. My feeling (*not* an opinion 'cause there's not much solid data to base an opinion on) is that kreteks are worse nevertheless. Granted, the data from the other side, the one that claims higher risks, are inconclusive as well.

[keturah]

If there is more vegetative matter other than tobacco in the isochoric system, then how can it be less healthful if the volume would otherwise be filled with tar and tobacco? I mean, can we agree that cloves are not really harmful? Nutmeg is another issue, but cloves are just nice and spicy. Kreteks were originally created for medicinal/analgesic reasons.

[birdwatcher]

ггггггг облом, не смогли согласиться
я знал

[keturah]

Ну, почему нет? Did you try 30 grams of clove, somehow?

[birdwatcher]

Я про ваше "оn that, we can agree", обращенное к троллю.