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Mar 20, 2010 14:15


If the health care bill passes, you and I will be required to obtain insurance or face an annual penalty of $695. I cannot afford health insurance. I will therefore have to pay the fine ( Read more... )

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drlaurac March 20 2010, 19:19:23 UTC
I am not a fan, either. Government healthcare has no reason to cover me and my weird ailments. Private care is my only hope. We really need to go back to the drawing board with this. Personally, I'd love to see an expansion of the Public Healthcare System, more local department of health resources as a primary care option for the uninsured or underinsured. And maybe making it obligatory for healthcare workers to spend a year just after their training working in these places.

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alice_bunnie March 20 2010, 20:42:05 UTC
Cheaper to pay the fine... of course, maybe they're counting on that. For healthy people, it is cheaper to pay for an occassional sick doctor visit than to pay for insurance.

the thing with forcing young healthy people to pay into an insurance scheme is to pay for older, unhealthy people. I believe the "health care crisis" is overblown. I believe the cost of the health care system is also overstated. And that all the hype about the "Health Care Crisis" is to make this seem necessary.

No one loses except for the taxpayer, because you still get your insurance from private insurers... they'll get a whole bunch of new healthy clients that won't seek care, and even if they have to take the unhealthy ones, I believe it will pay out.

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tochiro998 March 20 2010, 23:10:44 UTC
And what happens if you can't pay the fine? I can't afford insurance, I can't afford the fine, I don't qualify for medicare.

I mean, seems to me if we HAD to have National Healthcare why didn't they just say "OK, here's the deal, everyone in the US is now on Medicare. You're welcome". Seems to me that would be cheaper.

(and yes, I know the Government health care plans are greatly flawed and a huge mess of wasted money and such..unless you're a Senator or Congressman. somehow that system works just fine. Hmmmmm, special care for the elite class, now what does that sound like? I'm trying to remember...)

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me too dvancleve March 20 2010, 23:49:50 UTC
Until recently* I couldn't afford the fine let alone insurance.

I've been out of work for quite a few years and couldn't exactly "save up" for a health care package, but I guess if I start now I'll be able to afford the fine.

Totally off-topic, here, but has anyone seriously suggested bringing back the W.P.A.?

*I landed an "independent contractor" position -- hardly what it sounds like; I'm pulling in less per month than the proposed fine...

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puppyfuu March 21 2010, 00:57:03 UTC
People need to learn the difference between "health INSURANCE" and "health care", they are NOT synonymous and should NOT be treated as such.

I also find it humorous that we're being told that we NEED to insure all people because we have a moral obligation to our fellow man, but we shouldn't "push our morality" on people who aren't "hurting" us. As far as I'm concerned, we can either have a libertarian society of you do what you want and leave me alone, OR you can take my money and then I can tell you what to do. But you can't take my money and then tell me I'm not the boss of you. If I'm paying for you, then by definition I AM the boss of you.

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bitpig March 21 2010, 04:03:36 UTC
A recent poll conducted by The Medicus Firm, a leading physician search and consulting firm based in both Dallas and Atlanta, shows that with the passage of health reform without a public option 45% of doctors would try to retire early or leave medical practice, 30% if it passes with a public option.

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