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Aug 06, 2006 13:08

Arguments that Jesus may have been black ( Read more... )

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morte_o_merce August 6 2006, 15:57:07 UTC
then again, in the case of the crucifixion, the child volunteered.

it comes down to jewish tradition. in jewish tradition, a sacrifice could be made (and was) to atone for the sins of all the people. in the case of the crucifixion, the idea was that this one sacrifice, since it was made by god and was voluntary on the part of the one being sacrificed, it acted as the ultimate atonement sacrifice, negating the need for any others.

or at least, that's how i understood it.

still pretty fucked up, though.

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blackseraph August 6 2006, 16:42:41 UTC
That's true. Unless you believe Mel Gibson, and then the Jews are to blame for everything.

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morte_o_merce August 6 2006, 20:18:43 UTC
that guy really is a nut job.

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blackseraph August 6 2006, 17:16:35 UTC
But, seriously...so, Jesus apparently volunteered, but from what I can tell he was betrayed (interesting how the religious groups are denouncing the gospel of Judas - how many more gospels have been sacrificed to fit in with the philosophy of any given religion?) and marched up the hill by a group of heavily armed centurions and couldn't do much about it if he wanted to. I don't think it has ever really been explained just why this death freed us all from sin, and if Jesus really willingly went to the cross, could this not be construed as the evil sin that is suicide?

And most to the point, does Jesus really want us to remember him by wearing a cross around our necks? That's like if John Lennon came back and we were all showing him replicas of bolt-action rifles. If that were me, that's the last thing I'd want to see.

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wow nitechild August 7 2006, 04:57:29 UTC
I love that post, rarely does anyone actually make me think anymore.
~~nitechild

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fakereality April 12 2007, 19:14:17 UTC
God created humans to share the joy of his creation with him. However, their brains were obviously too small to grasp that He knew better, so they did exactly what they were told not to do. Rather than rejecting them entirely, God accepted their apologies and sacrafices of their physical possessions. But humans keep sinning left and right, so how can they possibly afford that many crops and livestock? Besides, each generation grows increasingly stubborn and spiteful, tuning out their conscience (the Holy Spirit) to gratify their lust and greed. "Ok," thinks God (hypothetically), "I'll give them one more opportunity. This'll be so EASY that all they have to do is accept it as their own. But this sacrafice must account for all the crimes of humanity past/present/future, and there is only one living creature pure enough to atone for all that ugly behavior. God himself placed his soul in our shoes (literally our feet) and suffered like us, with us, for us. There is no greater love than this.

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