For those of you who have discovered Manna's "The Administration Series," here's a question for you. (And for those of you who haven't, you're missing the best original fic - and the most fascinating relationship - around!)
It is many, many stories, some very long. All worth reading. They will leave you wanting more. Each time I have read thru them all, they leave me breathless for more. Ahavia
If Kring kills off Peter or Mohinder, I will be seriously pissed! April 23rd? WTF???
But I presume that Peter survives because when Hiro met him in the future - the scene on the bus, when Hiro has the sword - he said he didn't recognize Peter without his scar.
Hi, Dear Cat. I love this series. I have read thru all the stories 3 times so far. Warrick. He is presented as strikingly beautiful. Brilliant. I see a stoic strong mysterious character. Who only shows his true nature to Toreth and I do believe, wins his heart. I also see Warrick as a vulnerable and precious person that would brings out the feelings of protection in those who meet him. The question is why? The time in the elevator before the fire started comes to mind. We never get a full picture of what went on in Warrick's life that made him who and what he is. Thanks for starting me thinking about those stories. I joined the mannon LJ group.
Hey Ahavia! I didn't realize you'd read TAS, but I'm glad you like it. I've probably read it, like, 10 times, lol! And "First Against the Wall" even more. It's my favorite chapter. I immediately reread it as soon as I finished it the first time
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Yeah, Warrick's got that aloof, can't-have-me persona that drives people to tear their hair out and cry. For sure. I always wondered why we don't see women (hell, and men) falling all over him all the time. Could you imagine working in his office? Uhhhh. I know I'd volunteer for all the simsex sessions I could, if he were the other person. ;-9
>And DMW, I've been really busy and haven't gotten around to finally committing my thoughts on why Carnac is ABSOLUTELY NOT the hero of TAS to written form, but still plan to do so. I love hating Carnac!
Yes, you've made that clear. I probably won't participate (it's depressing when people absolutely trash your fave), but have at him, guy. Won't change my mind. :-)
Yes, you've made that clear. I probably won't participate (it's depressing when people absolutely trash your fave), but have at him, guy. Won't change my mind. :-)
Oh, I don't WANT to change your mind! I want to hear you tell me why you think I'm wrong, lol! I don't loathe Carnac the way some people do. I even feel sorry for him at times, mostly in FV. But I can't decide it Carnac is just not particularly self aware - which seems unlikely - or if he's just intellectually dishonest with himself, which also seems unlikely. Or maybe he's just seriously fucked up mentally, like everyone else in TAS!
Marion talks to all kinds of people in her job. Warrick is probably not the only control freak at SimTech, or at the other places she worked prior to coming on board at SimTech. I imagine she's encountered resentful employees other than Warrick. But Warrick is the one who makes her lose her cool. I think that he has a very strong, very compelling personality, and a lot of insight into people.
Marion and Carnac most support your theory. I do think that with both of them, Warrick is able to penetrate their defenses to a disconcerting extent.
He knew and loved Kate, but he hadn't seen Warrick since Warrick was 2 years old. Kate was able to distance and betray her own son, Tarin, for The Administration, and since Sable clearly chose the Administration over Kate, I imagine he'd do the same if the choice were between Warrick and the Administration.I don't see how Kate's feelings towards Tarin are applicable to Sable's feelings toward Warrick. My reading of Sable is that he is, like his son, a brilliant, charismatic personality, not so
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You make some good points. I can agree with most of them except maybe the one about Sable:
Even though Sable hasn't contacted Kate or his children since he 'died,' I feel it likely that he tracked them and knew a great deal about their lives. He would have the means to do so. While I don't remember any textual support for this theory, I think it consistent with the little we're shown of Sable's character.
In FATW, when we first "meet" Sable, I thought it was pretty clear that he had NOT followed Kate's life - or his children's lives - at all:
He had followed up the message that Kate was in danger from what he'd acknowledged to be a sentimental attachment to the memory of a woman he had not spoken to for a third of a lifetime. The letters handed to him so casually by his son had changed all that. In a way, he was glad that he hadn't seen them before. He had loved her, against all reason and protocol, from the first moment he had seen her. The years apart had blunted the memory of that and the pain of leaving her; a reminder so sharp
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Lucky you to be reading them all for the first time! I remember when I discovered them, zipped through them, and realized that I only had 3 or 4 left. I forced myself to slow down, and even reread a few stories before I went on to finish the series. Hated to see it end, but I've had great pleasure in rereading, because in the second, third, and even fourth rereads, I found things that I'd missed or hadn't figured out in the earlier readings.
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If Kring kills off Peter or Mohinder, I will be seriously pissed!
April 23rd? WTF???
But I presume that Peter survives because when Hiro met him in the future - the scene on the bus, when Hiro has the sword - he said he didn't recognize Peter without his scar.
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Warrick. He is presented as strikingly beautiful. Brilliant. I see a stoic strong mysterious character. Who only shows his true nature to Toreth and I do believe, wins his heart. I also see Warrick as a vulnerable and precious person that would brings out the feelings of protection in those who meet him. The question is why? The time in the elevator before the fire started comes to mind. We never get a full picture of what went on in Warrick's life that made him who and what he is.
Thanks for starting me thinking about those stories. I joined the mannon LJ group.
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>And DMW, I've been really busy and haven't gotten around to finally committing my thoughts on why Carnac is ABSOLUTELY NOT the hero of TAS to written form, but still plan to do so. I love hating Carnac!
Yes, you've made that clear. I probably won't participate (it's depressing when people absolutely trash your fave), but have at him, guy. Won't change my mind. :-)
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Oh, I don't WANT to change your mind! I want to hear you tell me why you think I'm wrong, lol! I don't loathe Carnac the way some people do. I even feel sorry for him at times, mostly in FV. But I can't decide it Carnac is just not particularly self aware - which seems unlikely - or if he's just intellectually dishonest with himself, which also seems unlikely. Or maybe he's just seriously fucked up mentally, like everyone else in TAS!
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Marion and Carnac most support your theory. I do think that with both of them, Warrick is able to penetrate their defenses to a disconcerting extent.
He knew and loved Kate, but he hadn't seen Warrick since Warrick was 2 years old. Kate was able to distance and betray her own son, Tarin, for The Administration, and since Sable clearly chose the Administration over Kate, I imagine he'd do the same if the choice were between Warrick and the Administration.I don't see how Kate's feelings towards Tarin are applicable to Sable's feelings toward Warrick. My reading of Sable is that he is, like his son, a brilliant, charismatic personality, not so ( ... )
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Even though Sable hasn't contacted Kate or his children since he 'died,' I feel it likely that he tracked them and knew a great deal about their lives. He would have the means to do so. While I don't remember any textual support for this theory, I think it consistent with the little we're shown of Sable's character.
In FATW, when we first "meet" Sable, I thought it was pretty clear that he had NOT followed Kate's life - or his children's lives - at all:
He had followed up the message that Kate was in danger from what he'd acknowledged to be a sentimental attachment to the memory of a woman he had not spoken to for a third of a lifetime. The letters handed to him so casually by his son had changed all that. In a way, he was glad that he hadn't seen them before. He had loved her, against all reason and protocol, from the first moment he had seen her. The years apart had blunted the memory of that and the pain of leaving her; a reminder so sharp ( ... )
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Lucky you to be reading them all for the first time! I remember when I discovered them, zipped through them, and realized that I only had 3 or 4 left. I forced myself to slow down, and even reread a few stories before I went on to finish the series. Hated to see it end, but I've had great pleasure in rereading, because in the second, third, and even fourth rereads, I found things that I'd missed or hadn't figured out in the earlier readings.
Enjoy!
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Ela ;) *waiting for the weekend*
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