Today's WTF brought to you by the not-so-nice-ladies at the next table over.

[bluechromis]

You know what really perplexes me? How so many black folk can be so against same-sex marriage...and furthermore claim it's offensive to associate racism with homophobia.

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[what_do_we_know]

for real! though i suppose if you perceive homosexuality to be a choice, then i can see how the distinction could be made.

still. it reminds me of a quote from G.I. Jane - when they're doing some horrible navy drill in the middle of the icy water and the black soldier (there's always one) tells demi moore's character about how his father (grandfather?) wasn't allowed to serve because "negroes can't see in the dark." he said that to him, she was just "the new n* on the block."

so it's like that for gays. we're just the new n*s on the block. does anyone really think that gays don't get beaten up, called names, humiliated and treated as less than citizens politically? we're not enslaved, but the rate of gay teen suicide shows a social enslavement of another kind.

it's sad that ANYone is treated like that, but to claim that your race/class/ethnicity/other-group has sole rights to be pissed off about discrimination... that's just disgusting. how could you not be sensitive when you see it happening to others?

[bluechromis]

Yeah, in a way it seems worse to me than homophobic white males. I mean christ, I just want to say you KNOW what it feels like! How can you turn your back?

Choice my ass. Yeah, someone would really voluntarily choose to make themselves a target for every bigoted asswipe out there. Some people have no common sense.

[urnesha]

For a lot of blacks, homosexuality is "a sin" condemned by God in the Bible. For a conservative Chrsitian it hard to present an argument that gets around that. While they might individually have friends who are gay they can't accept homosexuality as something natural or a person's right.

[bluechromis]

I know that's "why", but they are CHOOSING to belong to a hateful religion. I was raised in a religious environment...I chose not to accept the parts of the teaching that didn't make sense to me, including the anti-women and the anti-homosexual parts. It seems like a group that has been persecuted so blatently in the past would be one of the groups more likely to be sensitive to baseless discrimination. And yes, I say baseless, because frankly people pick and choose what they want to hear from the bible. But instead they are one of the most consistently discriminatory groups (on this matter). A lot of conservative christians can't actually debate theology. They have some pet issues and they ride them for all they're worth, but they haven't actually examined the issues in the scriptures as a whole and in a historical context.

Religion as an excuse for discrimination, war, hate, hypocrisy - gotta love it.

[hiddenbear]

It seems like a group that has been persecuted so blatently in the past would be one of the groups more likely to be sensitive to baseless discrimination.
While that makes perfect sense, it just isn't human nature. Hazing, admittedly far different than descrimination, is always done by those who have had it done to them. History is rife with examples of people dealing out punishment once they are on top, despite what they suffered when they weren't.

[bluechromis]

Yeah, I know. Religion really is just an excuse. People are they way they are. People who don't believe in discrimination don't belong to discriminatory religions.

B.l.e.c.h.