Comments | borg_princess: castle finale: 'Did I say that I need you, did I say that I want you? Oh, if I didn't, I'm a fool.'

borg_princess

castle finale: 'Did I say that I need you, did I say that I want you? Oh, if I didn't, I'm a fool.'

May 21, 2011 20:26

I haven’t written an ep reaction in a long while, but since everyone and their dog is doing a Castle finale post, well, let me hop on the bandwagon. (caps courtesy of rawr_caps- I did the combining, tho, as you can prob tell by the amateurish blends, lol)

( before that, a bit of backtracking- brief notes on Knockdown )

castle, crack!ship, castle/beckett

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lone_pyramid May 21 2011, 13:11:53 UTC

I don't have time to respond to everything you've said here (RL responsibilities and deadlines, alas), but as a quick response, I think that Kate (I like the name Kate, don't like Rick, so...) was deliberately shown as OOC in order to drive home how very much her obsession with finding Johanna's killer has consumed her. Remember when Castle first started asking about it, how she said she couldn't go there again because she drowned herself in that case for three years and it took a year of therapy to realize that it wasn't healthy? Yeah, well, now she's looking into the case again, and has been confronted with it twice in just the past five months, and it's consuming her again. Her father became an alcoholic; this is her equivalent, and it's just as ugly ( ... )

borg_princess May 21 2011, 13:23:49 UTC

I don't have time to respond to everything you've said here (RL responsibilities and deadlines, alas)

I understand! I wish I didn't babble on so much, I only meant to talk about three main things but when I watched it to refresh my memory/get quotes...it blew out into THIS.

I do like the name Kate and don't mind Rick, I should prob clarify that in case anyone gets offended, lol, but in reference to Castle and Beckett...it feels too normal. There are lots of Kates and Ricks in the world, but Castle and Beckett's more unique. That's just my wacky head, though. (same reason why it was always Roslin and Adama with me as opposed to Laura and Bill, etc.)

Remember when Castle first started asking about it, how she said she couldn't go there again because she drowned herself in that case for three years and it took a year of therapy to realize that it wasn't healthy?:O :O :O ( ... )

lone_pyramid May 21 2011, 19:29:08 UTC

Oh, no worries on the extended post! I'd totally be right in there with the discussion if I hadn't had to clean the house this morning, and now the kids are here, so free time is limited until sometime Monday afternoon.

lol, I'm glad I could help you figure things out in a way that lets you still fangirl Beckett. :D

Although...you'd think if the case ate her up so much it left her needing therapy, then it's even weirder to me that she stood outside crying instead of punching Castle and running back in to get those guys and severely hurt them to get the truth.

Yeah, she totally could've taken Castle, no matter how much bigger he is. I guess we can write that off to temporary paralysis due to being overwhelmed? Not only is she neck-deep in the case at this point, but she and Castle had a hell of an argument where she kicked him out and he left (which on the one hand she wanted, but on the other hand probably hurt like hell, because, always, right?) and now she's just found out that her mentor had a hand in the events leading to ( ... )

theaquamarine May 22 2011, 02:59:43 UTC

Wow, first of all! What a great post and great comments ( ... )

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morethansirius May 21 2011, 14:39:45 UTC

OMG! Awesome post! I've fallen in love with all things Castle lately. There's so much I could reply to but I'll start with this.

- what does Castle say at the end of this line, ‘I’ve been working with you for three years, I’m the guy that says “we can move that…”’ what? He spits it out too fast!

He says, "We can move that rubber tree plant." It's a reference to the song "High Hopes" about doing the seemingly impossible. You can find the lyrics here.

http://www.spiritofsinatra.com/pages/Lyrics/h/High_Hopes.htm

Oh, and I have to say that Ryan is just freaking adorable and Alexis could do a lot worse, Crack!ship that it is. Fabulous call on those awkward moments with the website.

borg_princess May 24 2011, 00:48:20 UTC

Thanks! I spent so much time on this and then it got so long and I was like, 'Crap, nobody's going to read it now', so I'm glad you did!

Ohhh. Rubber tree plant. See, I thought he said rubber something but I had no context, so huh. Interesting.

Hee, I have a knack with crack!ships, IDEK. :P I like my younger woman/older men pairings, lol, and that convo + the cast photo just begged me to ship it for the lulz. (those lame teen boys are no good for Alexis, pfft)

muzzy_olorea May 21 2011, 19:25:52 UTC

It's funny because I watched the finale barely remembering much about 'Knockdown' - not a good idea! But luckily they did a quick summary and important details came flooding back although it took me awhile to work out who the guy was that was killed in prison. LOL! I clearly watch too many shows and am juggling too many plot arcs!

I agree about Castle being shocked/upset about Beckett's pilgrimage. Weird.

I loved reading your comments on the episode. It was an interesting take and I agreed with most of it and some of it I couldn't comment on as the whole story arc is a bit of a blur.

One thing I thought was weird was that in an interview the creator said that Beckett wasn't wearing a vest "because people don't expect to be shot at funerals" but she knows that Lockwood is out to get her and that she IS in danger, especially at such an open event like that so SOMEONE should have made sure she was wearing a vest.

borg_princess May 28 2011, 03:28:52 UTC

I clearly watch too many shows and am juggling too many plot arcs

IKWYM! I have the hardest time with Mentalist, trying to keep track of who did what and why and how it all relates to Red John. *confuzzled*

And I still don't know why Beckett kept visiting the psycho instead of the guy he killed, he was a weak link, so she maybe should've focused on him?

And I'm glad you get why I was weirded out by Castle's reaction. Presumably it's a weekly thing for the past few months, so I felt it was a bit OTT.

Aww, thanks, bb! I had a lot of thoughts and it's nice you read it! I was concerned the length would put people off, lol, but once I started...

Beckett wasn't wearing a vest "because people don't expect to be shot at funerals"

Well, Lockwood was killed, no? Montgomery killed him? So she figured she was safe? But didn't she know there was a 'him' out there that was also out to get her? So...yeah. I mean, Montgomery said he'd made sure 'he' couldn't hurt Beckett, so we were presumably supposed to believe she wasn't in danger, but ( ... )

mcgarrygirl78 May 21 2011, 20:15:08 UTC

I finally saw it and though I was spoiled to Montgomery's death and Kate's shooting, I had no idea why. And you're so right, I knew Montgomery knew something in that scene with just the change in his expression, but ZOMG, to have done that one thing when he was young and to turn around and make his whole life about being someone better. It's such a fable, as a lot of this show is, that it all comes back and you cant hide from things you've done and someday you will have to stand up....and boy did he ( ... )

borg_princess May 30 2011, 08:33:29 UTC

Bleurgh, sorry for late reply. I'm so scattered these days.

I knew Montgomery knew something in that scene with just the change in his expression

So well-acted! Usually I'm all about the main characters, but he just rocked that! And it was wonderfully ambiguous, not being obvious 'I AM INVOLVED, LOOK AT ME, I'M SO SUSPICIOUS'.

to have done that one thing when he was young and to turn around and make his whole life about being someone better

YES. This is what I love so much about him! It'd be so easy to let that act define him and to dig his hole ever deeper but he went looking for redemption and pushed himself to do everything he could to be the best cop he could to make up for it- including mentoring Beckett, OMG.

I still wish we hadn't found out the idol have feet of clay, but it's such a powerful story.

really he was just a dumb rookie cop, it wasnt as if he was involved in the whole conspiracyWell, he was snatching people and holding them for ransom. Okay, so they weren't killed, but I think they were beat up and they ( ... )

recycledstars May 22 2011, 03:58:31 UTC

I LOVES ME SOME OTT ANALYSIS. LET'S GET INTO IT ( ... )

But wait there's more. Sorry. recycledstars May 22 2011, 03:59:01 UTC

THANK YOU ON THE FIRST AID THING THOUGH. Like, WHAT THE HELL CASTLE. She's mothereffing bleeding out, could you like, fix that instead of spewing all these feelings? Jeez. I think the part that really got me was that he lets her pass out. It's so much worse once they pass out. akjd;asda. Maybe it was the medical student in me. It also bugged me that Espo grabbed Lanie by the sleeve. LANIE IS A DOCTOR. COULD YOU LET HER LIKE SAVE BECKETT PLEASE? I don't know. His little "don't leave me" speech kind of broke my heart, but at the same time all my guts were screaming "pressure to the wound, vital signs" etc. etc. to the extent that I couldn't really enjoy it ( ... )

borg_princess May 28 2011, 03:48:52 UTC

LOVES ME SOME OTT ANALYSIS.

YOU'VE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE, THEN. :P (sorry it took me a while to get back to you)

In my head, she's been going to visit Lockwood to get him to crack for so long, and his escape makes that work a waste if they can't get to him.

A friend pointed out also that Beckett had previously become so obsessed with her mom's case that she needed therapy to come to terms with it and leave it behind and that's why it was such a big deal that Castle got her involved in investigating it again. I'd completely forgotten that, so that's another element here. There's her investment in trying to break Lockwood (I wonder if she really did send her 'fanclub' to beat him up?) but also her 'addiction' and losing touch with reality because of her overwhelming focus on the case.

in the hangar scene when she seems to be losing track of her sentences...

That weirded me out, I wasn't sure what she was trying to say? What was the 'other reason' she was talking about? IDEK.

in her mind she's already taken that step toward him ( ... )

borg_princess May 28 2011, 03:55:22 UTC

I liked finally getting to see her character just be sad. She's usually so strong and proud and (ok this is cruel and sadistic) seeing something that actually overcame her so much was heartbreakingly good.

LOL, IKWYM. With me, it's not- I don't like seeing random chicks cry. That's not my thing. But when there's a strong, very 'together' chick who's usually totally composed and on top of things and in control, seeing that composure crack is just...WOW. I wouldn't want to see her breaking down every week over lame crap, but when in a situation that is heartbreak fodder, yeah. *cuddles Beckett*

when castle covers her mouth with his hand and she reaches up and touches his face and it's just ... in this moment he's there and she kind of really wants him thereI DID NOT SEE THIS. Like, my copy of the ep is really dark or maybe it's my screen, but yeah, I didn't see that at all. I still can't really see it but I think I see her hand coming up for a brief second and then it's all shadowy...but since you and a few people have mentioned it ( ... )