Disgusted.

[chiri_chan]

Admittedly, I need to catch up a bit but I just simply cannot believe the end scene from Persuassion (Smallville's last ep). I just. How did that even air? How is anyone supposed to (or I should say, "still") buying this is the "real" Clark Kent? Whom even thought this plotline was a good idea? Part of me isn't even shocked they want an s10 and

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[ellyfanfic]

I am amazed and creeped out by all the people hailing that scene as awesome and badass. I really, really want to believe that the producers want us to be scared of this guy. Someone pointed out on my LJ that the music didn't say 'be afraid," it said "this is badass" (the music was a little reminiscent of the "Watchtower is now online" scene, I think). But that could just be music twit being a twit. But really, I just cannot BELIEVE no one on the show pointed out that all the 9/11 symbolism was creepy and disturbing. I do find it hopeful that they carefully showed us there were people at the base of the tower-- surely that was meant to show us how careless of human life Clark has become? I sincerely hope this is not!Clark

[chiri_chan]

I think the producers want us to be scared of him; I've thought that since Roulette when he slammed a would be murderer into a car. I don't condone preying on women - but one could have easily tied the bad guy to a lamp post, and let her drive a way. I crossed my mind in Echo where he put an innocent man in the hospital. The claim that Kandor was just Clark ~out of control~ never sat right with me either -- so it's OKAY to verbally and physically abuse someone you know has a history OF ABUSE because... you're mad at them

[svfan01]

Since somebody posted this link on twitter, I figure I would respond

[hoshi_reed]

I am not surprised they aren't seeing that Clark isn't heroic. They pretty much kept saying nothing was wrong with Chloe when they had clues up and down that Brainiac was inside her.

[chiri_chan]

Oh, I think saying Smallville sucks is an over simplification here by a lot. A LOT.

I don't think the writers didn't think. I think they've thought a lot. I think this choice is on purpose. I don't believe for a second it's an accident. I think it's a ~plan~ and that is why they need an s10 so badly.

I just think it's a bad narrative choice. I get that Clark was too Super-last year in a way and so they are trying to give him a new "Belly of a Whale" -- I just think the HOW is badly done. The audience isn't let in on what is going on. Unlike Chloiac where we could wait and root for someone to find out, we're still looking for admission.

The issue here is it makes s9 mostly water treadding and water tread while making Clark unsympathetic.

However more than ever if they have ans s10 they'll need the character of Chloe to help clean up this mess.

[hoshi_reed]

I think they HAD to go to that extreme because the deniers kept saying he was heroic; The irony is they STILL are even AFTER such a BLATANT and INTENTIONAL extreme.

[chiri_chan]

Yes. IT's sad. And it's meant the whole season is a moneypit.

[phantom_queen]

the big problem I have is the apparent support its getting on random sites. its called heroic and awesome.

however when people like fuzzy and acaton actually complain about there image I have to imagine that even cnoisers know its wrong.

do you think it would be ok to tweet the writers with a polite inquiry about how were supposed to take it?

i live right outside NYC, could see the smoke from the buildings, knew one person who managed to get out and another who didn't and I really want to know if I was supposed to cheer clark on or if the visual was supposed to leave me unsettled.

[chiri_chan]

Yes, that is my problem too. Like I don't debate that Zod needs stopped, I don't debate that Clark needs to do it, but REALLY is this the how people want from *Superman*? I don't get why the outcry isn't there.

I really hope they do, I saw it and went "Surely, fandom is outraged by this!" But then, nada. I guess I come from a different time, I remember when the fanboys HATED redk bankrobber Clark. Not that he's my favorite ever but I can at least get it being an ID desire. What I don't get is why this seems a free pass when it's so clearly...bad.

I don't see how it would be bad - especially if you are from NYC. I'm not but I saw it and it stuck me immediately - turned my stomach and made me remember. That last shot is SO villainous looking it's shocking.

[wwg23]

do you think it would be ok to tweet the writers with a polite inquiry about how were supposed to take it?

I was thinking of doing the same thing. But I think a person from NYC asking how Clark being associated with an act of terrorism is heroic would be great.

[chiri_chan]

*nod*

Thought I can see where any American would take umbrage with it. I'm not from NYC, and I certainly did.

[l_vera01]

[chiri_chan]

Well it's clearly not to get ratings - it wasn't spoiled.

I didn't get that feeling, I felt we were supposed to feel like it was bad. Clark above us all watching the world burn. It reminded me a LOT of Devilicus in Warrior. I think it was meant to imply that Clark IS NOT HEROIC right now.

That all being said, (a) I think it was over the line and (b) I'm still disgusted by those whom hail this as good rather than clearly symbolically evil.

[l_vera01]

[chiri_chan]

Well I think there is that "He's wearing an S that means he's good!"

What? I mean back it up. It's a HUGE THING in the comics to wear an S. The S means a lot. The S is not sullied. People whom don't deserve it get it RIPPED AWAY. To be a villain and wear it is a HUGE dishonor. Wearing the S means nothing without the actions to back it up.

I don't think they are talking because people aren't outraged enough. Plus I think THEY think it's all semi-secretly twist that they can't spoil. It's not. It's obvious to any long term fan. It was obvious once the buzz was cut in HALF at comic-con when the suit wasn't red and blue -- it was BLACK.

People know this isn't good. They do.

The problem is dragging it out to be a WHOLE SEASON. It's boring. It's depressing. They failed to fully commit in Pandora, and I think that was a problem. It's a whole season wasted. And we're not 'in' on it persay.

Which I think is the biggest problem.

[iliana_1]

I'm not going to lie, I was amazed and horrified at the imagery and I can't quite believe that people are hailing this heroic without questioning the utter stupidity of the writing and the direction and just the image of the towers crumbling. Like you say, I have no idea how it made it on to the air. No idea at all

[chiri_chan]

First off - icon love

[apeygirl]

I'm kind of with you, Iliana. I'm afraid this is the story they're telling. Not that I don't really want to be wrong. But in a season of shiny DC-ers swarming in on the show, I think they don't care so much about the message as having a bunch of "cool" things happen to get buzz and secure milking another year out of this show, however much it doesn't jive with the spirit of Superman. If there is no eradiclack or brainwashed reveal and we're really supposed to be just fine with this douche, then this show will just go down, for me, as the absolute worst interpretation of Superman ever. Forget Nois. What they've made of ILL pales in comparison to what they've made of ICK.

[chiri_chan]

Well, frankly, if one wants to go "It's DCitis" then one should look directly at the upcoming spoilers and whom *exactly* is coming back. There is no reason to bring him on UNLESS one is doing a brainwashing reveal.

Though why they would bring that arc to life, I don't know. It is not one of my favs nor do I remember anyone else loving it at the time (talking yes, loving no).