Open discussion: Hannibal 2x05 "Mukozuke"

[cleolinda]

I'm making good time on "Takiawase"--it's just that " Hassun" ran (extra) late because of another project I had to do, so now this is also running late. At some point I'm going to get out from under the backlog, but today is not that day. However, some of y'all in the "Hassun" comments asked if we could have an open discussion thread for the episode

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[meleth]

Ok, I'm going to need the oddly specific knowledge that I'm sure somebody here can provide. Can you even saw a human body into pieces that way, frozen or otherwise? And how would you display cross-sections like that without them just falling apart? And I think the timeframe's meant to be that this was the next day, maybe the day after? Could you do that in a night and/or a night and a day?

I'm sure somebody here will admit to being able to answer these questions.

[cleolinda]

I don't know, but I'll be looking into it. (The attention to detail you have come to expect from Cleolinda Industries, etc)

[meleth]

I really don't know how it would work, other than to use the silicone that Body Worlds or the Muralist used. Although if it were the Muralist's approach, that would be a pretty interesting choice for Hannibal to make.

Also, Dr. Lecter favorited one of my tweets. I feel like I just looked into the Palantir and saw the Eye of Sauron looking back at me.

[cleolinda]

Heeeeeee. Which one? There's a number of them out there.

[meleth]

@LecterVariations, who seems to have quite a following amongst the young women of the internet.

[cleolinda]

Oh! He's a good one, yes, I've spoken with him.

[meleth]

He appears to be supportive of the notion of Hannibal's bedroom containing Japanese erotica. Although I suppose we'll find out next week. *cries*

[meleth]

Ok, everybody below me has suggestions as to how this process would work. I love your fans, I really do.

[agentsculder]

Here's a pretty good explanation of flash freezing:

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-flash-freezing.htm

And since, as a side benefit, flash freezing preserves nutrients, I can see the good doctor investing in a fancy commercial freezer.

[agentsculder]

Band saws are used when butchering cows and pigs ALL the time. Assuming you have a sharp band saw, I'm sure it's VERY possible to slice a human body like that. As long the body was sliced while frozen, and then the slices encased between the glass while still cold, nothing would fall apart.

Now, whether it's possible to do all that in a few hours, I personally have my doubts. But after all, Hannibal is a murder wizard after all. However, since Hannibal is no doubt a fan of molecular gastronomy, he could very well have a supply of liquid nitrogen that could be used to flash freeze someone. But I have a feeling you'd need a LOT to do that. I can also believe he'd have a powerful freezer that could also be used for that purpose as well.

[tabbyclaw]

This is another great example of how anything amusing on this show has to turn awful. It's harder to appreciate the absurd humor of Hannibal sawing the muralist's leg into slices when you know what that band saw is getting used for next.

[laughingacademy]

I was wondering about this too: the technique, and the timing. It might help if the body were injected with certain chemicals. From the Wikipedia entry on vitrification:
Vitrification can also occur when starting with a liquid such as water, usually through very rapid cooling or the introduction of agents that suppress the formation of ice crystals. This is in contrast to ordinary freezing which results in ice crystal formation. Additives used in cryobiology or produced naturally by organisms living in polar regions are called cryoprotectants.
The article and concludes, "Currently, vitrification techniques have only been applied to brains (neurovitrification) by Alcor and to the upper body by the Cryonics Institute, but research is in progress by both organizations to apply vitrification to the whole body

[kyokomurasaki]

I was thinking over the cars that would be large enough to haul bodies suspended in plexiglass plates in, and of course my warped mind settled on "food truck." Either that or an ice cream van could potentially have a large enough freezer...

[bienegold]

Ice truck killer 2.0!

(No, I shouldn't besmirch the good name of Hannibal by invoking Dexter)

[kyokomurasaki]

Aaaah, I'd forgotten about the Ice Truck Killer! Oh, Dexter. I'm glad I stopped watching you after Rita died.