Great analysis--really enjoying all the various takes out there.
"There are points where Steve saves Sam or Natasha and points where Sam saves Steve, but no points where Natasha saves Steve."
I have only seen the once, but isn't there a point where the Winter Soldier is up on the bridge and about to open fire/go after Steve in the overturned bus and Natasha knocks him off his game, causing him to pursue her instead? I thought that was her drawing fire/saving him, but he is definitely unaware of it--at least, so it would seem. It was notable to me because it does seem a piece with her arc; she could just run here, but she doesn't.
That is, I don't think that's what makes him pursue her, but at the end of the highway confrontation, after his mask is torn off, he's going to shoot Steve when Natasha shoots him instead.
I just saw it and agree with basically everything you said here, except I didn't catch that it was Bucky. (One of my friends did, though. He's better at seeing plot twists coming generally.)
The review I read that basically described Natasha as eye candy and serving no other function makes even less sense now. She's the most interesting character in a cast of characters who are very interesting considering that this is a comic book film.
From my reading of various alcoholic-private-eye stories, I gather that Alcoholics Anonymous often uses a meeting structure with a speech followed by debate, so when they showed the lectern at the counselling session they may have been thinking of that.
1) Working with a larger team and Shield backing highlights them being alone and _against_ Shield later. 2) Fighting Batroc easily highlights the difficulty of fighting Bucky later (who is damned tough).
Everything else was deeply insightful and I laughed _hard_ at the Steven/Natasha shipping (which I do as well). On the other hand, she was wearing an _arrow_ necklace the entire film, so this might be a closed issue in the MCU. :-P
I don't think they should have gotten rid of the entire boat sequence, but Steve's solo fight against Batroc is uncharacteristic, takes up too much time, and serves no purpose except to show that our hero is macho and tough. The elevator fight demonstrates the toughness just as well and more organically.
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"There are points where Steve saves Sam or Natasha and points where Sam saves Steve, but no points where Natasha saves Steve."
I have only seen the once, but isn't there a point where the Winter Soldier is up on the bridge and about to open fire/go after Steve in the overturned bus and Natasha knocks him off his game, causing him to pursue her instead? I thought that was her drawing fire/saving him, but he is definitely unaware of it--at least, so it would seem. It was notable to me because it does seem a piece with her arc; she could just run here, but she doesn't.
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That is, I don't think that's what makes him pursue her, but at the end of the highway confrontation, after his mask is torn off, he's going to shoot Steve when Natasha shoots him instead.
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The review I read that basically described Natasha as eye candy and serving no other function makes even less sense now. She's the most interesting character in a cast of characters who are very interesting considering that this is a comic book film.
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1) Working with a larger team and Shield backing highlights them being alone and _against_ Shield later.
2) Fighting Batroc easily highlights the difficulty of fighting Bucky later (who is damned tough).
Everything else was deeply insightful and I laughed _hard_ at the Steven/Natasha shipping (which I do as well). On the other hand, she was wearing an _arrow_ necklace the entire film, so this might be a closed issue in the MCU. :-P
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