Ted Nugent

[commissardowey]

is a very scary man with very different views on gun control. He did get me thinking though. Who is one Man to take anothers life? Then how do you respect every Man's right to live, without infringing upon one Man's right to defend him/herself

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[sailorcrackhead]

No one has the right to attack me or take my things either, and even though you're supposed to just give things over when you're being robbed, if they continued to attack or try to violate you or something, I'd shoot their ass. Things can be replaced, that's fine, but when it comes to defending your person, especially if the odds are against the person being attacked (height, weight, strenght, etc.) then you should be able to defend your person.

[commissardowey]

I think you and Ted Nugent would get along very well in regards to this :P
Although now I'm slightly curious, what are your thoughts on repeat offenders? Texas has a three strike policy when it comes to repeat offenses.

[sailorcrackhead]

Texas isn't a real place, therefore I don't think about it too much. A woman tried to eat her baby in Texas just recently, so to me it's a non-place. As for repeat offenders, well they're not bein very smart I suppose. Defending yourself in a life or death situation is fine, shooting someone on your porch for some dumbass reason = not the same.

[commissardowey]

I don't mean shooting someone on your porch for no reason ;-) The way their law works, if you go to jail twice, for the same crime. We'll say. Rape. That third time, death sentence. Now, it's not the same for if you, say, steal a pack of gum.

[bliss_imperfect]

My general views on violent crime can be summed up as follows: if you deliberately move outside the law (rape, murder, etc), you forfeit your right to be protected by that law. And any other rights given by law, such as voting. By making violent moves, you are indicating that you wish to live outside of society's bounds, so you should be treated accordingly.

That said. I would probably be pretty scrappy defending myself, but I have never taken a life (obviously) and don't suppose I could really know my feelings until I have.

But if anyone attacked one of my loved ones, I would not hesitate. I do not believe that anyone has any more right to live than I do. I am perfectly content with the kill-or-be-killed hypothesis if there is danger to those I care for.

[commissardowey]

Sort of an "eye for an eye" type of thought? If someone decided they can take someone else's life just for their... wallet, then you can defend your life by taking theirs. On the basis they are acting outside societial beliefs?

(This whole topic is somewhat hard for me to contemplate because I've never really been in that situation, I don't know how I'd truly feel. Like you said about taking a life)

[bliss_imperfect]

No, I don't really mean "an eye for an eye." Though I am a fan of the Mal school of thought (if somebody tries to kill me, I'm gonna try to kill them right back

[commissardowey]

*nods* I see I see. (and yes, I understand the context to which you are limiting what you say)