I love this topic!dachinchillaDecember 20 2009, 06:53:57 UTC
I've been thinking a lot of about the phenomenon of Dean/Castiel versus Wincest... It's so fascinating!
I hate to generalize, but the main impression I'm getting is that Dean/Castiel threatens Wincest so deeply because unlike the canon female love interests, Castiel unsurps Sam's subtextual position at Dean's side. People can write around text easily, but Dean/Castiel is just as subtextual as Wincest, so it's almost like its encroaching the same playground.
Re: I love this topic!commodoresexualDecember 20 2009, 06:59:32 UTC
Well I hate to be the adult in this conversation, tilting over to the kid's table ... but they need to GET TEH FUCK, over themselves.
I am not here to spit in Wincest's proverbial Wheaties. I'm here to think inappropriate thoughts about Dean and Cas together, thank you.
... okay I'm really here because I'm a marshmellow for their text!friendship and their subtext!loveforoneanother. But I'm also here because Dean and Sam are the most awesome family and I adore them. Both.
Just not in a pornographic way. Why can't certain people in the fandom who apparently gotta be all BECKY about it got to start shit between two factions who should be at peace with one another?
Just because I don't see Dean/Sam? Does not mean I am out for Wincest blood. Some of my best friends are Wincesters. We taunt each other with Dean/Sam/Castiel sandwiches of lurve. Why? Because we're cool, and we remember the number one commandment of Shipping.
Thaaaaaaaaank you sugar. I love you too. Buncha friggin' bitches around this town, that's all I gotta say. Trying to make me hate on my girls in Wincest. WELL I'M NOT HAVING IT JUNE. THIS SHALL NOT BE.
Fuck those bitches, I got no time for them. I'm weird atm, I still ship Dean/Castiel but lately I've really been into Wincest too. And I'm totally a Dean!girl too but have always always loved my Sammy. I don't care what other people ship and I'm always respectful of their OTP's. People should just chill the fuck out. FS is one fucked up place of wankiness.
You know the weirdest thing? I'm still a strong Dean/Cas fan? But I have SUCH A weakness for Sam/Gabriel, now. I do! It's like a really delicious candybar I can't resist in the store, so I have to grab it. And read it. And giggle like a five year old because for some reason that pairing is so secretly win.
That fandom secrets site is a little scary and very weird. I tend to stay in my safe Dean/Cas waters but I often wonder why people care so much. It's all fantasy anyway and why can't everyone just go with whatever floats their boat.
Seriously Thou Shalt Not be a Douchebag about OTP ought to be a legal document people should sign before entering fandom because geesh.
I literally stumbled unto it because I was following a friend's post, because sometimes when I wander I find awesome things. I did not find awesome things. I thought I did? And then I realized they were not as awesome. Grr.
I know, right? I feel like I should get my lawyer friends on that shit.
OMG, fandomsecrets is just...rife with LOLZ all the time, especially in the SPN department. And I'm with you! I know I'm late to the party and only just got into the show this year, but really, Sam is exactly the sort of guy I love IRL and I've loved Jared since "Gilmore Girls" (even though his character turned into an inescapable douche), and I love how he's all conflicted and has a "saving-people-thing" like Harry Potter and...yeah, gotta love him. (But Dean/Cas...my God. I was watching parts of "Lucifer Rising" last night and their relationship is just so intense and awesome and...AAHHH. Love it too.)
So basically, IA. I don't think they're at all mutually exclusive.
Most of the time with fandom I literally go, 'Oh wtfever', but seriously? Just no. Just no with your whole thing with a side of no and some 'get the heck outta my playground'. No.
You remember the days of PotC? *musing* Where everyone would ship with everyone else and it didn't matter because it was just smokin' hot? I miss those days.
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I hate to generalize, but the main impression I'm getting is that Dean/Castiel threatens Wincest so deeply because unlike the canon female love interests, Castiel unsurps Sam's subtextual position at Dean's side. People can write around text easily, but Dean/Castiel is just as subtextual as Wincest, so it's almost like its encroaching the same playground.
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I am not here to spit in Wincest's proverbial Wheaties. I'm here to think inappropriate thoughts about Dean and Cas together, thank you.
... okay I'm really here because I'm a marshmellow for their text!friendship and their subtext!loveforoneanother. But I'm also here because Dean and Sam are the most awesome family and I adore them. Both.
Just not in a pornographic way. Why can't certain people in the fandom who apparently gotta be all BECKY about it got to start shit between two factions who should be at peace with one another?
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Just because I don't see Dean/Sam? Does not mean I am out for Wincest blood. Some of my best friends are Wincesters. We taunt each other with Dean/Sam/Castiel sandwiches of lurve. Why? Because we're cool, and we remember the number one commandment of Shipping.
1. Thou Shalt Not Be A Douchebag about OTP.
THIS. ALL OF IT. I FUCKING LOVE YOU.
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GOOD FOR YOU BB! *snogs you*
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THANK YOU SWEETIEKINS! *nuzzle*
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Seriously Thou Shalt Not be a Douchebag about OTP ought to be a legal document people should sign before entering fandom because geesh.
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I know, right? I feel like I should get my lawyer friends on that shit.
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And I am glad to know that we are still epic in our love for Sam. For Sam's face is pretty, and we squish him with love.
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So basically, IA. I don't think they're at all mutually exclusive.
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You remember the days of PotC? *musing* Where everyone would ship with everyone else and it didn't matter because it was just smokin' hot? I miss those days.
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