i may seem like a needless asskisser here, but this is what i really want out of livejournal. will attempt to make it back for a real commentary after work.
i won't deny that i never critically analyzed a game before; usually if it entertains me, it entertains me. i don't necessarily want to think when i play video games; i want to be entertained, i spent money on this. i doubt anyone thought about dig-dug or pac-man critically before.
This game seems to have this effect, particularly on people who don't play many games and/or are more concerned with "art" in a more overarching sense, as you've illustrated here.
in the case of shadow of the colossus and i say with most great art, it isn't necessarily the withdrawal or denial of information but the addition of it which must be done by the onlooker, or listener and in this case the player.
Yup. That's one thing I tried to say here, and then alluded to in this more recent entry, getting into a discussion on narrative in videogames with inertiacrept.
there must have been time in human history where the first people who could think and imagine approached this new world and could make whatever they wanted out of it. anything was possible; a blank
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[art] is useless without disucssion. this is the why academia arises and also to another extent why we have livejournal music rating communities. anyone can experience a vast amount of art but what is the point if there is no conversation? elitism has been made into such a dirty word, but elitism is necessary.
Sometimes I think this is the most important part of the experience, and that is what I got into here: "I think some people take issue with the title of critic or journalist because some people who fill that role seem like nothing more than automatons conveying cold facts; however, there are those who, like I want to, elevate 'criticism' to a more noble (possibly artistic) medium of expression, conveying ideas and feelings, interpretations of ideas and feelings, etc. I believe there is value in that. It is part of the shared experience." (And I don't mean to attempt to hog the spotlight by constantly referring back to my own entries - I just want to tie this all together, because I really appreciate what you're saying here
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So you're saying that people have already drawn all over that new world/blank canvas and the world has become a world of symbol (thanks to those who could listen to the "cold sound" from "the muck of the land" and manifest symbols from it) where everything is already supposed, already done, and our imaginations are undermined by this?essentially, yes. we impose our idea of order onto a world which already has a natural order (nature) and also the order of other people who inhabit the world (culture). order though, is our imagination and not necessarily reason for wallace stevens argues "reason is the methodizing of the imagination." this is why i think ayn rand is aweomsely wrong, but that is another discussion
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... metal gear solid 2 where towards the end it goes into this post-structuralist dissertation about how history can be controlled by a small group of people behind the scenes.
I've just printed out a bunch of Stevens's poems. I have a few things to get done this evening, but then I'll read those and get back to these comments and try to get into things a little bit more.
hey man, you were a big reason why i wrote this entry. i really hope you read some of stevens and eliot; it truly is awe-inspiring poetry.
more importantly, i'm happy at least someone else truly appreciates and struggles with these ideas. it is over-whelming sometimes; not in a bad way, but to be able to hold discourse about all this, is important in trying to understand life and all that it encompasses. and of course, it doesn't end here, these ideas will always be discussed; however, i'm glad you are here to talk with this about.
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This game seems to have this effect, particularly on people who don't play many games and/or are more concerned with "art" in a more overarching sense, as you've illustrated here.
in the case of shadow of the colossus and i say with most great art, it isn't necessarily the withdrawal or denial of information but the addition of it which must be done by the onlooker, or listener and in this case the player.
Yup. That's one thing I tried to say here, and then alluded to in this more recent entry, getting into a discussion on narrative in videogames with inertiacrept.
there must have been time in human history where the first people who could think and imagine approached this new world and could make whatever they wanted out of it. anything was possible; a blank ( ... )
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Sometimes I think this is the most important part of the experience, and that is what I got into here: "I think some people take issue with the title of critic or journalist because some people who fill that role seem like nothing more than automatons conveying cold facts; however, there are those who, like I want to, elevate 'criticism' to a more noble (possibly artistic) medium of expression, conveying ideas and feelings, interpretations of ideas and feelings, etc. I believe there is value in that. It is part of the shared experience." (And I don't mean to attempt to hog the spotlight by constantly referring back to my own entries - I just want to tie this all together, because I really appreciate what you're saying here ( ... )
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Yeah, right away that reminded me of this.
I've just printed out a bunch of Stevens's poems. I have a few things to get done this evening, but then I'll read those and get back to these comments and try to get into things a little bit more.
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more importantly, i'm happy at least someone else truly appreciates and struggles with these ideas. it is over-whelming sometimes; not in a bad way, but to be able to hold discourse about all this, is important in trying to understand life and all that it encompasses. and of course, it doesn't end here, these ideas will always be discussed; however, i'm glad you are here to talk with this about.
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