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ext_934220 March 30 2013, 08:59:07 UTC
DARKASLAY UPDATE AFTER AN IDKHOWLONG TIME

The whole fic is basically just confusion; with the where-is-this-going feel and the mixed up capitalizations and the random "--"s. But it all fits with the title, so that's art, I guess?

But omg you're back ;A; I've just been rereading "The Upward Fall" earlier today, and I've finished rereading wiwfts a couple of months ago. I MISS YA MANG

There's just one part I'd honestly admit I don't understand: "By whose hand." I've been reading lots of your stuff lately because I love how you use all your phrases (I'm sort of building a phrase bank), so I'm going to go ahead and ask about what I have yet to learn..

Thanks for the update, darkaslay! We missed you!

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darkaslay March 30 2013, 21:27:19 UTC
I totally get the confusion, but the anon below you completely and wonderfully encapsulated what I really wanted to say when I wrote this.

The weird grammar is due to the fact I wrote this as a stream of consciousness and I kinda got into that groove and let it be that way.

The "by whose hand" refers to the fans and Taeyeon. Really, the comment below yours is a better explanation than I can give lol.

I don't mind the questions!

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ext_934220 March 31 2013, 01:55:12 UTC
Ohhhh I totally get it now. Thank you awesome anon!

And whoa, deeper than I thought. There's more to it than meets the eye, I guess. Wonderful piece of work. Now this leaves me with a lot of mixed and confused thoughts and concerns..

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anonymous March 30 2013, 10:39:13 UTC
Hi. I missed you. And your writing.
I love how I am always in awe of your updates ;/
You never lose the touch, do you?
Thanks for this.

Anyway, this piece hit a sore spot in my heart lol.
The way it is written, the vagueness and uncertainty of what it does want to convey... were all over until the end. The ending cleared it all.

Are these your two cents on shippers' obscenity? Seems so.
You know how it clenches a fan's heart reading "By whose hand, taeyeon would wonder. By whose hand."

One can just imagine the probability of Taeyeon thinking about that lol.
They were close. They became closer growing up. But... How much of it was because of second nature and not by external sources? The fans... hadn't they forced them to be this? This... couple? But. "But they did a little."

They can't wash their hands from this. And now.

"Their fans had more than they should have."

Ouch.

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darkaslay March 30 2013, 21:43:45 UTC
I was just replying to the comment above yours and telling them how amazingly you understood what I was trying to say.

I guess the whole reason I wrote this because I think any "shipper" struggles with pushing the girls to romantic coupling, OTPs and whatnot. It'd be interesting to have a discussion about the whole thing, including the true thoughts of the girls about it. I know if I were in their shoes I'd be a little uncomfortable by it and the expectations we as fans have, when we put up signs and posters of a pairing. Do the girls think they have an obligation towards us? I dunno, I dunno, 'cause if that's true, for any idol group, I can't imagine how it might warp their relationships or their view of relationships.

Thank you for reading my rant (basically that's what it was lol) and commenting, beautiful anon.

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dree_kazza March 31 2013, 09:09:08 UTC
overexposure.
I get what this fic mean.
just done discussing this matter with a good friend of mine a few days ago and now you write this and my feelings are awakened agaain :(
taeyeon, please interact more with others :(

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darkaslay April 1 2013, 04:18:29 UTC
Well, it's not really about the overexposure because hell, Taeyeon can flip everyone off and hang out with Yuri for the rest of their Soshi careers if she feels like it because it's her life. Right now, for whatever reason, she feels the most comfortable with Tiffany and she doesn't owe anybody anything. That's the main point, none of the girls owe us anything except for music and performances because that's their job.

What I was trying to write about is how the girls might feel they're obliged to give us fan service because of our support, the money we spend on them, etc. and the problems that can cause. In this case the problem being confusion over how much a relationship has grown naturally as opposed to one influenced by outside sources.

Lol, once again, sorry for ranting, but thank you so much for commenting!

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dree_kazza April 1 2013, 06:12:10 UTC
it's okay, your rants are fun to read :D
haha I just hope everything's okay in soshiland.
because it got me furious when someone commented "SNSD=7+2" in the TaeNy selca in Taengstagram. I dont know if he/she really mean it like 'yay it's taeny, taeny is in their own world, taeny is in another different friendship than the others <3 heart <3 heart' or more like he/she being sarcastic because he/she doesn't feel the ot9 as strong as before.
Sorry I'm such an emotional wreck.

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darkaslay April 2 2013, 03:42:18 UTC
I wouldn't get too worried about it. The girls are always gonna share somethin' together no one else will be able to touch. I don't doubt there are some friendships that are closer/stronger than others but just watch a fancam of Complete during their Korean tours and the OT9 feels will destroy your soul lol.

Don't apologize for the emotions, Soshi does that very easily xD

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Meh QQ foody518 April 2 2013, 03:02:56 UTC
This hit me right in the feels. I definitely feel a bit awkward/conflicted especially regarding that end part and the role of fans/fandom/shippers.

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Re: Meh QQ darkaslay April 2 2013, 03:49:53 UTC
It's a bit crazy, isn't it?

I'm not saying I'm any better but I think it's important as a fan to at least acknowledge this kinda stuff? I'm not really sure what I wanted to achieve with writing that piece ie rant. Just wanted to get something off my chest, I guess lol.

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Re: Meh QQ foody518 April 2 2013, 03:55:16 UTC
It made me think back to the time that I got really hardcore and adamant about my ships. Thank goodness I'm too far away and too lazy to have done anything, really, but yeah, that kind of mentality, of being that insistent regarding the girls, or maybe simply that there are so many people who try to wish certain things regarding what they should be like, it's crazy.

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Re: Meh QQ darkaslay April 2 2013, 04:07:52 UTC
I think most people who have ships went through a period of time where they were off in lala land lol. I think fans should be allowed to have that though, as well as the time to mature from it.

Like you said, that overzealous mentality can really set you up for disappointment and therefore a bit of craziness.

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es_en_es_di April 3 2013, 08:53:59 UTC
Wow!! I get it and more with the comment were anon explains it...

Also this part makes me think about the famous answer Taeyeon gave when asked about shipping in that magazine interview
'--you don't understand. I won't tell you it's love but whatever it is, it's wonderful. Am I out there kissing her face, holding her hand, shouting I love you in the middle of conversations? No. so give me this. Give me the stupid, tiniest satisfaction that I can love her alone, and in silence.'

Also it makes me thinks about YulSic that at some point they jumped out when they saw it was getting out of their hands, but TaeNy is different and maybe they can't do that at this level..?

Anyway author you just hit me like a bucket of cold water Good job lol

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darkaslay April 4 2013, 04:27:48 UTC
That's interesting now that you mention it, about YulSic. Also YoonYul. I mean, they were alllll over each other during Genie and post Genie but nowadays they barely acknowledge each other. How freakin' awful would it be if managers or the company tells you and your best friend to 'tone it down' or if you yourself get insecure about what massive crowds of people are projecting onto you and your best friend.

I'm probably taking this more seriously than I should though lol. But thank you for commenting and if it made you stop and think for a sec, I've succeeded!

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