For you hardcore "republicans are evil" types....

Sep 26, 2008 00:10


Read the article, then read the date on the by-line:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

"The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
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lshiva September 26 2008, 11:52:26 UTC
Does this mean that you're changing your mind about government involvement in the market? It seems like you're trying to say that greater government control and regulation is a good thing, while I thought you were strongly for less regulation and smaller government.

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What is your point here? tricstmr September 26 2008, 12:00:57 UTC
1. Did this actually happen? At the height of Republican control of the House and Senate, did they pass this bill? If not, why not?

2. So what was this supposed to accomplish? Rather than having a different branch of the government do oversight on parts of the executive branch, this bill was going to have the executive branch do oversight on itself? That worked so well with Iraq and Halliburton...

Doesn't sound so cool to me. Sounds more like having the executive branch giving itself even more power at the expense of the other branches of government again.

Do you think this fits with your libertarian ideals, Scott? Having one branch accumulate ever greater numbers of powers? I would think that your immediate reaction would be to attack such ideas as an attack on the constitutional principle of separation of powers.

I wonder how Ron Paul voted on this bill (if it ever even came up...)

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Re: What is your point here? thesaj September 26 2008, 13:29:24 UTC
A bill was later proposed and brought before Congress. It was pretty much defeated with Democrats mostly voting "No" down party lines.

Interesting to note the top three receivers of Fannie/Freddie political money. Chris Dodd, Barack Obama, John Kerry. (But down worry, Republican scum like Arlen Specter, etc aren't far below them.)

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

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interesting... tricstmr September 26 2008, 14:24:38 UTC
1. Nice link to the money.. It's always good to know. Looking at the numbers interests me.. because even the largest amount--that received by Dodd, is less than the money that Rick Davis, McCain's campaing Manager had been receiving from Freddie Mac since 2005 (at least $15,000/month until last month==around $500,000+) as a lobbyist ( ... )

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that was me.. tricstmr September 26 2008, 14:25:18 UTC
Sorry.. don't know how I got logged out.. weird.

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fencert September 26 2008, 13:28:21 UTC
I've seen lies and greed from both sides. Believe me I have little love for the choices the Democrats have made, and for their weaknesses. But I've seen such a blizzard of self-serving lies and greed from the Repubs that they will never convince me that anything they say is the truth, not for a long long time. This has been the most damaging administration the US has ever seen, and its time for it to end.

Frankly I think the Dems are more like the Repubs of twenty years ago, and the Repubs are just frikking fascists who want to make their friends rich before the whole house of cards comes down. Its time for them to check out and make room for another party or two.

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celticgypsy September 28 2008, 01:44:35 UTC
Here's the problem with that argument ( ... )

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