My two cents, for the record

[deanesque]

First, I'm going to start by saying that I don't ever WANT war. I do not think that all death in war is for a reason, and I believe that death in general is a tragedy. However, I can not agree with the standpoint that this war is putting ourselves in other people's business for no reason. I would also like to point out that Bush is not the first

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[ex_persiflag931]

1. Hitler and Hussein are non-comparable. Hitler was loved by his people, making him infinitely less susceptible to an overthrow from within his own coutry. Hussein is not. Hitler began a systematic genocidinal extermination of several specific ethnic groups. Hussein is not.

2. Whether what Clinton did was right or not is absolutely up for debate. Debate leads to conclusions. Conclusions lead to change. Just because Clinton, Bush Sr., and many prior heads of state have made the grave mistake of involving themselves in the private wars of countries does not make it permissible today. The "we have done it before, might as well do it again" theory is bs

[deanesque]

I'm glad you responded because I respect you too. Indeed, you make me think and that's wonderful. I feel that there are fundamental differences in our beliefs that will unfortunately never allow us to see eye to eye here, but I think it's important that both our views be put on display intelligently rather than the standard LJ babble that we both love to make fun of. Here's some reactions to what you have said

[deanesque]

6. So, this last point was a bit of a side note for me. All talks of senselessness aside, America is going to war and people are going to die. I'm just saying people should have the dignity and respect to say, "Well, it's happening but at least I'm not going cos I don't respect the beliefs of this country right now." My last paragraph was supposed to be something universal, not divisive. Regardless of your beliefs at this point, regardless of how senseless you think it all is, some people disagree and they might die for it. Here's the image I have, maybe this helps clear things up: a man on a battlefield, dying, and someone comes up and whispers in their ear, "You're useless. You died for nothing. You wasted your life. How's that make you feel? To know that you didn't make a difference." All I'm trying to stop is the post-Vietnam "baby-killer" thing. I'm not saying we should start the kids on propaganda now cos a lot of them are going to die or anything. These people are going to die quite independently of what you

[ex_persiflag931]

This war is an illusion.

The debate is somewhat identical, all the refutations are about midway down in my comment.