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[decoschmeco]

ya know, i really don't like reed. i mean, i love portland, it's a beautiful city and all, but reed isn't really my thing. there are moments when i'm like 'man, this school is great' but i mean, some people take the honor principle way too fucking seriously and i get weird looks when i say that i don't really agree with most of it's aspects. in

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[altaego]

If you find a way to resolve your feelings about Reed, it might make the rest of your life easier. It depends, some places like graduate school and other environments where people are pursing similar Reed-type endeavors (I don't know, art museums? digital information collectives?) might have the same types of things frustrating you which I'd summarize as enforcement of group norms of behavior, hypocrisy, and bureaucracy.

Of course one way to come to terms with the dislike is to leave. But don't let one pretentious senator drive you away.

[anonymous]

Okay, so I just stumbled on your journal by accident (don't you love finals week procrastination), from the reedlj friend's page. I'm going to give you my unsolicited opinion, just delete it if you don't want to hear what I have to say (I'm a senior, though, so maybe I have some advice

[decoschmeco]

well, uh, firstly, thanks for your opinion and all but, this is all shit that i've taken into account. you're totally dumb if you think i haven't considered going somewhere else. secondly, if it's within the hp to tell someone you don't like something that they're doing, would it not also be within the hp to bring up an issue i have, even if it's with the hp itself? if it's so god damn sanctimonious that that's not allowed, well fuck that. it's an hpv. but then again, isn't everything? "not liking the hp" (which, by the way, i never said. and i would appreciate it if you didn't put words into my mouth and then judge me based on those false words) is very different from "disagreeing with most of its aspects." the fact that i disagree with some of it instead of just blatantly not liking it means that i'm open to debating/"mediating", what have you. i appreciate your advice, but unfortunately, none of it really applies to me

[anonymous]

I'm sorry you read that as me thinking you were dumb, I didn't mean the comment to be condescending (but okay, it probably would come off that way 95% of the time, attribute that to senioritis).
I think that there is room to debate the honor principle, and that you should be able to challenge its assumptions; I was trying to say something more along the lines that you are going to be fighting a lot of battles with people about it if you "disagree with most of its aspects" and find people who use it pretentious. I think as much as people pretend that the honor principle is up for personal interpretation, etc etc, a lot of our understanding of it is shaped by community norms, and so for a lot of people disliking a lot of aspects is equivalent to not agreeing with the thing in itself. (What aspects do you like

[decoschmeco]

yeah, i know i'm going to be fighting battles. and i know that it's not generally an excuse to be pretentious, i just think that in some instances (like the one i stated one) people do use it that way. obviously not all the time though.
i'm definitely staying next semester but after that i'm just keeping my options open.

ps sorry if i came off as bitchy earlier, i tend to both write and respond on lj when i'm in a bad mood. this isn't very productive haha. but thanks for the advice. who are you though?