56. truth.

Jun 22, 2011 00:56

[Filtered away from: Howie, Steph, Una, Bruce, Dick, Martha. (basically, people Sveta told him might get Narvin in trouble.]Well. A while ago, my warden, Narvin, played you an interesting piece of history. Something he believed was the 'truth'. It was a lie. It was all fabricated. This, I've emphasised over and over again ( Read more... )

narvin is now my favourite corpse, fellow dwarfs will help you hide a body, grumpy dwarf is grumpy, ardent gets his shout on, king queen and crown prince of cover ups

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Filter shortsghtedlove June 22 2011, 00:10:45 UTC
[FROWN. A very big frown. Narvin never tried? But how is he supposed to save Gallifrey through his deal if he never actually has his inmate graduate? He'll have to talk with that boy, that's really not how it works.

Nonetheless...]

And you couldn't have found a way to stop him that didn't involve killing him. [Savage.]

Besides, why should we even care? I doubt he's the only warden who isn't really trying. Any agreements between you don't change the contents of the cube. And again, if it was a lie anyway, then there was no reason to torture him over it. [Not that he thinks Ardent will listen. Because Ardent is a stupid dwarfen savage and savages never listen. Worthless.]

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Re: Filter deepdowndark June 22 2011, 00:14:53 UTC
He threatened to kill me. He pulled his weapon on me. Fired it, to my belief. I brought my axe upon him more in self-defence than anything else.

You do not understand the weight of lies to my people and you never will, Time Lord. [That's kinda hard to say as an insult. Ardent manages it.]

I doubt he is the only one, but it does demonstrate their duplicity quite well, doesn't it?

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Filter shortsghtedlove June 22 2011, 00:25:54 UTC
[That... is hard to argue with.] You could have gotten someone capable of stopping him without murdering him. He was obviously not in his right mind.

I understand the weight of lies exactly, dwarf [And that sounds like he's calling Ardent an insect.] but what you did was not only unforgivable, but never necessary.

I do not care what you think it demonstrates. The cube doesn't disappear because of it.

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Re: Filter deepdowndark June 22 2011, 00:29:53 UTC
I was actually protecting him. Because if anyone else knew what he was thinking of doing, and that he'd armed me... well, we can see what comes of it now.

Not to me, you don't. It broke no law, and was necessary, as such lies should never have been spread. Never.

I never intended for it to disappear. I intended to invalidate the context in which it was played. I intended to show that there is no proof that the Cube is the truth. You have to take Narvin's word for it. Narvin who has done all of that. He's hardly a reliable source.

As I might have cut his tongue out, but I do not lie.

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Filter thebestnose June 22 2011, 00:56:44 UTC
Why does this matter?

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Re: Filter deepdowndark June 22 2011, 00:57:52 UTC
It doesn't matter to me. I thought it might matter to wardens who wanted to believe their colleagues were here with good intentions.

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Re: Filter thebestnose June 22 2011, 01:09:00 UTC
Wardens are people. We all have good and bad intentions, right?

Just because they're [She has problems with pronouns] all in charge doesn't mean they always do the right thing.

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Re: Filter deepdowndark June 22 2011, 01:11:24 UTC
That's not what most of them would tell you.

I wouldn't mind so much if they were honest about it.

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[Private] timesbureaucrat June 22 2011, 01:00:20 UTC
[Narvin's response is delayed. Because first he has a few moments of stunned silence that Ardent has just said that. Then he spends the next microspan or so swearing under his breath. Exposed cover-ups are hell to deal with under the best of circumstances, and here he doesn't have his rank to protect him if people decide to hold it against him. He tries to buried his initial burst of fury and pretend to be rational.]

Dammit, Ardent, this doesn't fix anything. The Cube says what it says, everyone heard it. I didn't make it or record the words on it or have any involvement with it besides making it public. Maybe it's a lie, maybe it isn't, but smearing me doesn't change it.

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Re: [Private] deepdowndark June 22 2011, 01:06:18 UTC
Narvin, let me be honest.

This isn't about fixing it, really. It isn't about lies or the truth, or anything.

You played the Cube publicly. Just to spite me. Just to prove a point, just to prove my actions couldn't stop it. Well, you succeeded, Narvin.

But if you didn't think I wouldn't come back with some truths, some realities of my own, if you didn't think I'd hang you out to dry like you did me, then you were sorely mistaken.

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[Private] timesbureaucrat June 22 2011, 01:09:49 UTC
So this is petty vindictiveness. Well, at least you're honest about it.

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Re: [Private] deepdowndark June 22 2011, 01:13:18 UTC
From your cowering in warden areas at the time, Narvin, I imagine you'd prefer vindictiveness to the taste of my blade.

If you want 'truths' to come out, Narvin, they must all come out.

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gingerspeedster June 22 2011, 01:05:35 UTC
Was there a point to this rant? Because apart from giving an example of a wardening technique, I'm pretty sure I missed it.

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deepdowndark June 22 2011, 01:09:26 UTC
If you're too idiotic to see it, go away now.

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gingerspeedster June 22 2011, 01:14:28 UTC
You had a system going that you liked, and you just announced it to the barge. And it includes murder and the cover-up thereof. So from where I'm standing you're the one who looks like an idiot.

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deepdowndark June 22 2011, 01:15:41 UTC
That system was already bust a while ago.

I wasn't getting anything out of it any more. He shouldn't either.

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ifightfor June 22 2011, 01:19:20 UTC
[...Well. That's...well. Huh.]

Query: Evidence that recording is a fabrication?

Further query: Ultimate objective on Barge, if not departure via rectification?

Further query: Ultimate objective of revelation?

Further query: Overall satisfaction with own Warden, aside from mentioned incidents?

[...Congratulations. You may just have targeted Narvin for the first Aggregate Warden Evaluation.]

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deepdowndark June 22 2011, 01:27:21 UTC
First query - none. Except the weight of a thousand years of history that contradicts it. Several millenia of history which agree vs. one cube that disagrees.

Second query - ultimate objective of being here is to continue to exist. For us both.

Third query - so you can know his truth, if he wants you to know my 'truth'.

Fourth query - none of your damn business.

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ifightfor June 22 2011, 01:44:32 UTC
Query pursuant to first: Does recording precede that history?

Query pursuant to second: Existence on Barge understood not to be preferable to existence off Barge. Conditions of graduation and Warden "deal" imply that existence may continue as one chooses contingent upon rectification. Reason for refusal of rectification?

Clarification pursuant to fourth query: Query not for reasons of personal involvement. Candid answer not required but solicited for reasons of unbiased result in eventual report.

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deepdowndark June 22 2011, 01:49:18 UTC
First: The cube has been there since creation. The words on it could have been put there at any time. I believe no.

Second: A return to my world would end in... unfavourable circumstances. A return to any other world would mean a rejection of my cultural identity. Narvin can speak for himself.

Fourth: Still none of your business.

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