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casablancagirl August 24 2010, 09:09:11 UTC
WHAT DO YOU MEAN POLONIUS ISN'T GOD? IT ALWAYS SEEMED SO OBVIOUS TO ME!

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dontcrosscross August 24 2010, 12:18:36 UTC
OH OF COURSE! AND HE IS ALSO KINDA SYMBOLIC OF JULIUS CAESAR, WHO IS ALSO JESUS, WHO IS LAERTES, BUT JULIUS CAESAR WAS ALSO APPARENTLY FROM THE CLAUDIAN FAMILY, WHICH IS CLAUDIUS, SO... wait... what?

My general reaction to this whole thing:


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hoc_voluerunt August 24 2010, 10:01:35 UTC
a) ...
b) I kind of want to and am terribly afraid to (and also not bothered to) read that now...
c) ...
d) AVPS WIN.
e) Just gonna throw in another '...' because, well, ...
f) Wait, have you not been to Hell? It's not that bad really, but admittedly the stamp is more of a tattoo, so it kinda hurts, but it's totally worth it. Getting back in can be kinda hard without it (trust me, I tried). But seriously, why haven't you been there? You have read Harry Potter haven't you? Were you like, not enticed into witchcraft or something? You mustn't have been paying very much attention. I hate it when people misread things like that, totally missing the point.
Anywho, though, you should go visit, and you should definitely get the stamp. Also, see if you can get into their pen-pal system! The little devils down there can be pretty insightful, y'know, and it makes a great break from some of the more dull aspects of life on earth, it really does ( ... )

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dontcrosscross August 24 2010, 12:25:49 UTC
a. This.
b. Read the first half, that's where all the analysis is. After that, it starts talking about a performance which sounds almost as stupid as the allegory.
c. This.
d. YAY I <3 AVPM/S


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hoc_voluerunt August 24 2010, 12:34:48 UTC
OH MY GOD THAT GIF HAS ME SQUEALING AND DOING A RETARDED FLAPPY-HAND-FLAILY-DANCE-THING YOU HAVE JUST ENRICHED MY LIFE. CANNOT. LOOK. AWAY. TOO CUTE.
"WELL IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT ONE NOW"
*INSERT KEYBOARD MASH HERE*

Oooh, you went with the deluxe design? Nice choice. I just got the simple flame design, but I got this wicked goat in the centre in this invisible ink stuff, so it only shows up under UV lights. It's pretty awesome, and totally worth the extra effort. Plus it means I get free ice cream from Beelzebub's. You ever been there? You should stop round next time you're down there, it's pretty awesome, once you get over the screams of the live unicorns being slaughtered behind the shop windows to make the cones. But at least they're sparkly!
(OH GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME, I REALLY SHOULD STOP NOW.)

*Oh god, please do.

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dontcrosscross August 24 2010, 13:06:16 UTC
OTP OTP OTP OTP OTP FOREVER <33333 *totally writing fic*

Yeah, I guess they only reserve it for the really advanced sinners or something? Mine has glow-in-the-dark ink - when it gets dark, the star turns into the mouth of the Freudian vagina monster from Star Wars, it's pretty neat. Really freaks my victims out, too.

*musical interlude*

Ooh, no, I was meaning to go there last week but they were remodeling - Is it true they've got new upholstery? I heard they were making it from baby skins - I hope so, I thought the puppy furs they used to use were a bit tacky. We should totally meet up there sometime - nobody makes a Doomsdae like they do.

(NO PLEASE DON'T EVER STOP XD)

*ENJOY

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gileonnen August 24 2010, 12:16:14 UTC
Allegory is more or less my academic bread and butter, and I probably love Laertes more than anyone ought to ... but goodness, that performance concept is messed up.

(I have heard some equally unflattering things about Shakespearean allegory as performed by the Dark Lady Players, but I can't verify one way or the other.)

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dontcrosscross August 24 2010, 13:10:48 UTC
Poor Laertes, I am sort of fond of him when he isn't being a huge dick. (I just saw a production of Hamlet where he died in... maybe the worst way possible. D: Hamlet was TOTES JOKING when he stabbed him - just a little bit, on the hand - and he had this silly expression, like "LERP DERP LOL NOW YOU'RE BLEEDING TOO!" And Laertes is just going FUCKFUCKFUCK and it was pretty excruciating to watch.)

(I've heard bad things about a production of Shakespeare that consisted of women dressed in black clothes, but it probably wasn't the same company. XD - It is nice they've got a woman playing Hamlet, though.)

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murf1307 August 25 2010, 04:43:09 UTC
*smacks face* God, I hate allegory. Symbolism I can do; I love symbolism; but this? NO. JUST NO.

I'm haven't even *read* all the way through Hamlet and I know that's a load of bull. DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH GOOD SIR BEFORE YOU LET STRANGE SENSELESS THINGS FALL FROM THY LIPS.

APOLLO IS THE KING OF HELL? DOOD, I WANT TO SEE THE MUSHROOM SAMBA YOU WENT ON TO COME UP WITH THAT. Seriously, that must have been some baaaad acid this guy dropped.

And, dude, no. Brutus' first name is MARCUS. This fucker needs to at least go read Wikipedia, god.

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dontcrosscross August 25 2010, 06:08:53 UTC
Ooh! You should totally read Hamlet, bb, it's full of delicious MANLY FRIENDSHIP, and by MANLY FRIENDSHIP I mean pretty-boy scholars in the closet, awkwardly expressing love for each other.

...Which I think is about the cutest way I've ever described the Hamlet-Horatio relationship. Huh.

And this exchange from above works pretty well as a reply here:

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN POLONIUS ISN'T GOD? IT ALWAYS SEEMED SO OBVIOUS TO ME!" "OH OF COURSE! AND HE IS ALSO KINDA SYMBOLIC OF JULIUS CAESAR, WHO IS ALSO JESUS, WHO IS LAERTES, BUT JULIUS CAESAR WAS ALSO APPARENTLY FROM THE CLAUDIAN FAMILY, WHICH IS CLAUDIUS, SO... wait... what?"

TARQUIN IS THE HOLY GHOST, TOTALLY CALLING THIS. Lucretia is symbolic of... um... all those non-believers who couldn't handle His heavenly penis. *headdesk* DAMMIT ESSAY, NOW LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME SAY.

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murf1307 August 25 2010, 06:14:28 UTC
Lol, I just love MANLY FRIENDSHIPS. *giggle* Why else would I be a K/S shipper, an Alex/Heph geek, and into Shakespeare?

*stares at Tarquin paragraph* So, uh, God is Fred Phelps? With a dash of Jack the Ripper? And he's a rapist? Good God I'm headed straight to hell. But hey, if Phelps is God, I'd rather burn in hell than be anywhere near that narrow-minded hateful son of a bitch.

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dontcrosscross August 25 2010, 06:18:14 UTC
MANLY FRIENDSHIPS: TOTALLY AWESOME UNTIL YOU REALIZE THEY'RE TOTALLY GAY, AT WHICH POINT THEY EITHER GET REALLY HOT OR REALLY AWKWARD.

Nonono, Polonius is God, remember?

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...I don't understand what I just wrote.

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murf1307 August 25 2010, 04:50:07 UTC
Sorry to spam your entry, but I went to go, you know, try and read the article, but I got up to the bit where somebody tried to play the murder of Caesar as a parallel to the murder of Christ. NONONONONO YOU FOOL! KEEP YOUR BIBLE OUT OF MY JC! YOU CAN COME UP WITH SHIT LIKE THIS AND STILL NOT NOTICE THAT CASSIUS AND BRUTUS WERE TOTALLY FUCKING?

AND IS DRAMATURGICAL EVEN A WORD?

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dontcrosscross August 25 2010, 06:16:41 UTC
Generally, when you shove a Bible into JC, it starts giving Brutus and Cassius such nasty looks that they're forced to go elsewhere. (But I don't complain; this is why we have fanfiction.)

...Possibly? Of-or-relating-to dramaturgy? IDK.

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murf1307 August 25 2010, 06:39:08 UTC
Ah, yes, yes, I understand. I love my religion, I honestly do (Roman Catholic), but really, Christianity? Serious fail on the part of gayness. Serious, serious fail.

But what is dramaturgy? Is it like church+theater?

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dontcrosscross August 25 2010, 14:08:51 UTC
Dramaturgy is like... I guess you could say it's research, to make a play more realistic? Like, for Caesar's stabbing scene, a dramaturg would research how much blood should come out based on the number of wounds he got and where they were. That's a pretty macabre example, but it works as well as any other, I think.

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