What's your favorite?

[dotsomething]

Calling animation fans: go help out evillittletwit with a history project and tell her what's your favorite Disney traditionally animated film, and why.

Here's my answer (which is in the comments on evillittletwit's journal and I thought worth reposting here).

Comments

[kirbyfest]

I just like the movie because the Dog of Wonder looks vaguely like Tramp. (But DoW is a girl.)

I'm a simple person. :)

[dotsomething]

Does Dog of Wonder like the movie? That's the really important question *g*

[kirbyfest]

She's generally indifferent to TV. Every now and then a dog show will catch her eye for a moment or two, but that's about it. ;)

pet and tv

[greenbaron]

I had a cat (the devious looking one on my pic) who occasionally took interest in cats on tv or rodents. He bore a resemblance to one of the cats used in You Can't Do That on Television, but undoubtedly a coincidence as I picked up Attila in the New Orleans SPCA and that show is in Ottawa.

[sistermagpie]

Love love this movie.

I thought of Peg (later on in life, obviously, long after I first saw it) as sort of a Belle Watling character. She loves Tramp and he probably loves her too, but he's not in love with her. He probably thinks she's the best woman dog in the world, but that doesn't matter. Like Rhett with Belle, he thinks she's the best, but his heart is captured by Lady--even though objectively he might think Peg the perfect woman. (As a kid I shipped Tramp/Peg can you tell?)

[dotsomething]

Belle Watling is a really good parallel. But Lady isn't much like Scarlet, who's manipulative and ruthless. Scarlet and Lady are naive but beyond that there's no similarity.

I've always 'shipped Tramp/Lady, but always like Peg and felt sympathetic towards her. She's very likeable--which breaks her with the hussy archetype she's based on. She's not trying to get Tramp back or take down Lady. If anything, Peg is selling the idea of Tramp to Lady, her song's all about how fabulous he is, "What a dog!" (with maybe a bit of warning--"breaks a new heart everyday")

[sistermagpie]

That's definitely true about Lady vs. Scarlet. They're kind of opposite ends of the spectrum. Peg isn't better than Lady in the ways I think Belle is shown as better than Scarlet (Scarlet's a lot more flawed than Lady).

One of the other funny things about Belle is that she's obviously sexy in dog terms--she was even in the Dog and Pony follies. But it's hard to see her as a whore since she's a dog. It seems, again, to be a bit more about class.

[dotsomething]

But it's hard to see her as a whore since she's a dog. It seems, again, to be a bit more about class.

In the context of this movie, yes, but there do seem to be contemporary live-action equivalent archetypes. Nothing that truly matches the Peg/Tramp/Lady dynamic. In fact Belle isn't the scheming hussy--in contrast to Scarlet, she's the angel and Scarlet is, if not a whore, a bit of a demon. Peg and Lady are both angels maybe, and as you said, the main difference being class.

Peg also makes me think of the Hispanic woman in High Noon. Again, it doesn't match exactly, but you've got the guy, you've got the guy's good-hearted but slightly slutty ex, and you've got the guy's current love, who is iconically pure as the driven snow. Like Lady, the Grace Kelly character doesn't fight until she must. And again you have a scene where the ex tells the current flame, in more or less oblique terms, "he's a great guy and you're blind if you can't see it."

High Noon was about class, too, I think.

[greenbaron]

The stereotypes are pretty mild..just look at Dumbo for instance. The chihuahua is also stereotyped, but in a funny way.

I guess I see the class distinctions a bit, but I have a certain classist tendency myself. It also shows Tramp dumping his old ways and moving up, but he also proves himself to the Scottie and bloodhound.

BTW, I am in NYC until Thursday. Did you get my email?

[dotsomething]

Sorry, it's been a little nuts (busy weekend, busy week at work). But I got your email. I'm not sure about this week, unfortunately, but I've got your cell number. Maybe we can meet up after work tonight or tomorrow night?

[greenbaron]

::hugs:: I know how busy life can get. I sent you another email, and I really look forward to seeing you, but I'll understand if you can't.