Hugo Thoughts

Apr 07, 2015 20:12

Having posted a proposed solution to the issue, and a couple of analyses arising from it, here are my actual thoughts, in no very coherent order. Non-friend comments are screened ( Read more... )

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la_marquise_de_ April 7 2015, 19:36:06 UTC
It's highly likely Sheila Gilbert doesn't know she's on their slate. She has zero online presence, as either a reader or a commenter, seriously. She just doesn't participate in the online community. I have no idea why Beale et al have listed her, as she is liberal and feminist and supportive of writers who are diverse, of QUILTBAG writers, and of socialist writers. The list of novels she's edited includes many many with QUILTBAG themes and central characters, central characters of colour, and all the things VD and co hate most. Given some people are saying anyone who hasn't rejected the nomination deserve to be punished by association, I just wanted to let them know that Sheila, at least, probably has no idea about any of this.

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smofbabe April 8 2015, 09:06:25 UTC
Sadly, the SP slate ballot-stuffing punishes both deserving people/works that were pushed off the ballot *and* those that made the ballot but will now be negatively affected by the backlash. Many people will be voting No Award either because they do not think the ballot should be treated as legitimate due to the obvious SP slate influence or because they believe that it is impossible to determine the best people/work in a given category for this year because the SP poison-pill slate crowded many or all other possible choices off the ballot.

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la_marquise_de_ April 8 2015, 17:18:07 UTC
That makes sense.

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daveon April 8 2015, 18:35:50 UTC
I[m coming around to the 'fruit of the poisoned vine' position that any category which is tainted gets a straight No Award from me, even BDP-LF which I actually think would have looked just like that anyway.

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history_monk April 7 2015, 20:31:37 UTC
This scheme looks pretty convincing, and quite a bit better than the one Charlie Stross talked about at Eastercon.

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kevin_standlee April 8 2015, 04:24:00 UTC
Nicely put.

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smofbabe April 8 2015, 09:06:05 UTC
Very good and articulate points. I especially like #8 :->

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nwhyte April 8 2015, 12:00:56 UTC
I agree with every word of this. (Except that I did make a few nominations this year.)

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