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Aug 30, 2005 15:19

I may get flamed for this one, but I think it's absolutely rediculous that our tax dollars are going to saving idiots who did not follow the MANDATORY evacuations down south. I understand if people were in government approved shelters and need rescuing, that's a completely different story. I do not appreciate my tax dollars going to saving ( Read more... )

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natcowmoo August 30 2005, 19:59:28 UTC

I'm gonna have to agree with ya on that one. Yet another reason for me to apply for welfare right now....

dutchessvana August 31 2005, 01:05:17 UTC

I would consider it a victory for responsible citizens everywhere if you did that Natalie, TRULY! First welfare check you get, let's go out to dinner (on all the schmucks like us who pay taxes)! We're gonna be paying for it in taxes till we die anyway.

dave66 August 30 2005, 20:39:59 UTC

Its true though. I dont think I or anyone else will be happy with our tax dollars ever. This is just one more example.

dave66 August 30 2005, 22:25:50 UTC

p.s. I didnt pay any taxes last year therefore i actually cant say anything.

h2openguin August 30 2005, 21:06:11 UTC

not everyone had the means to evacuate either monetarily or vehicularly. And some were homeless, just squatting to have a roof over their heads... I'd much rather pay for AMERICANS to be rescued than IRAQIs to be bombed.

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dutchessvana August 31 2005, 00:59:13 UTC

people who were financially unable to move were provided 'safe' places in which to find shelter. Homeless people don't get stranded on their roofs. Homeless/poor people get stranded in the superdome and in schools, and I have no problem at all with our tax dollars going to help those law abiding people.

h2openguin August 31 2005, 04:47:37 UTC

I know it would take a lot of humility for me to go to a public shelter. And I know Ted wouldn't go.
Not because we are financially unale to go anywhere, but because if you're gone, and something repairable happens, you can fix it.

Homless people have the same pride that you and I have, so I can understand why they wouldn't go to the shelter. And if youre all of a sudden finding yourself in a flood, You get yourself onto ANY roof... to think it's only the home owner would be a very naive thing to say.

hurricanes can turn at the last minute, look at Charley, last year, All set to hit Tampa, lo and behold hits 2 hrs SOUTH at Port Charlotte... so perhaps they were "prepared for the worst, hoping for the best"

dutchessvana August 31 2005, 05:41:12 UTC

I consider myself a proud person, and I wouldn't give it a second thought if there were an evacuation. I'd leave immediately and go to wherever I am told I will be safest. If someone choses to stay home they do so at their own risk.

Pride is fine, and if someone's pride prevents them from going to a shelter, that's fine too... but their pride should also prevent them from using other people's money to save their 'proud' asses. How proud can you be being airlifted from a roof?

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jnshk August 30 2005, 21:37:59 UTC

i agree as well. there are some cases where people were physically/financially unable to evacuate or possibly even make it to safety shelters. for these people, i am not at all upset that my tax dollars go to their aid (although i would have preferred that they be spent transporting such cases to shelters--but that is logistically nigh impossible). for the idiots and assholes who chose to stay because they thought "it won't be that bad" or because they desired to stay in order to loot or vandalize, i find it phenomenally disappointing and upsetting. but unfortunately, in cases such as this, how do you determine who stayed because of inability to escape and who stayed for foolish and/or selfish reasons?

Oh my... murph3000 August 30 2005, 23:20:50 UTC

Obviously we are going to disagree with this one........If you knew the economy of New Orleans you wouldn't saying this stuff.

Re: Oh my... dutchessvana August 31 2005, 01:00:45 UTC

I know the news isn't the most accurate of sources, but I heard on more than one station that there was an evacuation center within walking distance of something like 95% of citizens, so I don't think that's asking too much unless somebody is bodily unable to get to one.

Re: Oh my... jnshk August 31 2005, 03:13:16 UTC

i admit that i do not have very intimate knowledge of the economy of New Orleans, and I am willing to be enlightened.

are you implying that of all the people who stayed, all of them were physically/financially incapable of evacuating or at least making it to shelters? i certainly could see how a majority might be, but i also have a hard time believing that there were not still a good handful of people who stayed because they simply though that they could "handle it". (perhaps this assumption that at least a handful of the population is stupid, stubborn, and self-confident to a flaw comes from my time spent in Texas.)

or are you implying that some who may have chosen to stay, for whatever reason, are justified in looting due to severe economic oppression?

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dutchessvana August 31 2005, 01:07:11 UTC

New Point. If you're physically unable to get to a shelter, you're gonna be physically unable to climb up into your attic, take an axe, tear up the roof, and hold on to shingles for hours until someone comes to help. If someone is able to do that, then they were able to get to a shelter. And if someone else did it for them, then that someone else should have been able to get them to a shelter.

Seriously... murph3000 September 1 2005, 04:47:34 UTC

You don't believe that do you? If someone lives in Metairie, you expect them to walk 30 miles to a shelter that would borderline be destroyed as well with no running water..no food...destroyed????

Re: Seriously... dutchessvana September 1 2005, 06:02:53 UTC

I agree with you, 30 miles is a long distance for someone who does not have transportation. With a 48 hour warning I would hope they could find public transportation a safe location, however I understand that would be difficult also. These are extreme cases though. There were many people who out of stubborness just stayed home because they wanted to. Now we're having to rescue them. there is no excuse for this.